samsung nx1 vs sony A7 choice: I am torn between these two cameras in upgrade from my film cameras. I like the idea of mirrorless design which allows adapting old film lenses. Just...

videofilm

I am torn between these two cameras in upgrade from my film cameras. I like the idea of mirrorless design which allows adapting old film lenses. Just wish one of them had image stabilization in the body. Why did sony abandon this in new model? The samsung seems more aimed at pro market with body better sealed from elements. Also like the smaller high res sensor of samsung for greater telephoto effect in wildlife and macro work. Not sure about samsung lenses though. Do not seem to be supported by independent lens makers and their own selection is quite limited. Leaning towards Samsung for use with my old manual focus lenses with adaptor.

azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.

It sounds like you should add the Sony A6000 to the mix. It has the same size sensor that you seem to prefer in the Samsung, and has the same lens offerings as the A7. Plus it is the fastest focusing camera of the three. I have the A6000's predecessor (Nex-7) and I love it!

Plus, research shows that humans can make quicker decisions if there are three choices involved.........

cneajna Loc: Port Angeles, WA

videofilm wrote:

I am torn between these two cameras in upgrade fro... (show quote)

I just read a review of the Sony A7 that mentions the kit lens comes with image stabilization. I own the A7K and so far, my only complaint (minor) is that there is no built in flash. But, with a full size sensor, and the fact that I don't take many pictures in the dark, that's probably not a big deal (for me). Plus I have other cameras so if I need one in the dark, I can use them as they have built in flash. :)

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

If you need image stabilization, look no further than the em1. The 5 axis stabilization is good for about 4.5 stops of light (with any lens), since it's built in.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

azted wrote:

It sounds like you should add the Sony A6000 to the mix. It has the same size sensor that you seem to prefer in the Samsung, and has the same lens offerings as the A7. Plus it is the fastest focusing camera of the three. I have the A6000's predecessor (Nex-7) and I love it!

Plus, research shows that humans can make quicker decisions if there are three choices involved.........

Yowzah!

rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA

Cdouthitt wrote:

If you need image stabilization, look no further than the em1. The 5 axis stabilization is good for about 4.5 stops of light (with any lens), since it's built in.

5 axis? Care to explain that?

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

rob s wrote:

5 axis? Care to explain that?

Pitching, yawning, rolling, vertical shift, and horizontal shift, are what it corrects for.

http://cache.olympusamerica.com/static/video/getolympus/omd/fz_featuremovie_5axis_en_1920x1080.mp4

rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA

Cdouthitt wrote:

Pitching, yawning, rolling, vertical shift, and horizontal shift, are what it corrects for.

http://cache.olympusamerica.com/static/video/getolympus/omd/fz_featuremovie_5axis_en_1920x1080.mp4

That sounds like Olympus marketing speak for what my Canon is does!

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

Canon doesn't do the rolling.

rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA

Regardless of how it's done the movement is dramatically reduced by the Canon system. I don't intend to look at the two systems in detail since regardless of whatever you and Olympus may see as a USP, the result is that Canon's system works for up to four stops worth of shake reduction.
Splitting hairs over how it does so in order to suggest a superior method seems an artificial distinction to me.
The more so since I'm not convinced that it's possible for there to be more than the conventional three axes at work here.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

rob s wrote:

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How well does it work with lenses without stabilization. That's the difference. With olympus, it works with every lens.

rob s Loc: La Mesa, CA

Understood and I'd like to see that with every camera. However it does seem likely there's a good reason why most camera makers haven't done it this way and why Sony have dropped this from their present line of cameras.
Better stabilisation perhaps?

rebride

That Samsung sure is intriguing.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

rob s wrote:

Understood and I'd like to see that with every camera. However it does seem likely there's a good reason why most camera makers haven't done it this way and why Sony have dropped this from their present line of cameras.
Better stabilisation perhaps?

I thought the a6000, a77ii, and a99 all had it built-in. Not sure about the a7 series.

videofilm

Thanks for the info on Olympus camera. Will definitely have a look. I have manual focus telephoto lenses by Canon and Cinema Products. Canons are older FD type lenses 300 f2.8, 50-300 f4.5 and 600 f 4.5 modified by Cinema Products for universal short mount. Have adaptors for cinema, still, and video cameras. The in body stabilization offered by Olympus is very tempting. Will need to see some examples or have a hands on test.