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Oct 31, 2014 12:07:37   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
I'm struggling to capture nicely these tiny things on my leaves.

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Aphids but with large parasites or ???
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Oct 31, 2014 13:22:53   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
Brenda, you've done a fine job of capturing these itty bitties. I'm going to make a guess just to see if I come close.

The first ones seem to be a type of beetle larva.
The shriveled looking ones are Aphid husks, left after molting.
And the Aphid "parasite" are likely going to be wings.

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Oct 31, 2014 13:31:44   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I concur with Bill.

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Oct 31, 2014 15:05:13   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
Thank you Bill and Douglass and I am clever enough to concur with both of you. You have saved me a lot of time when I could be chasing critters around the garden instead of pouring over ID charts on the computer.

I have tried hard to get a good bee photo today but they move around so fast. I think I have worked out that part of the problem is that they move away from the shadows of me and my gear perhaps because it is a warning of danger or because they need the light to collect their pollen. Plan B tomorrow.

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Nov 1, 2014 06:50:41   #
relbugman Loc: MD/FL/CA/SC
 
I wonder if the first larva is a first instar butterfly, possibly a swallowtail. I don't know what's available in Spain. The second pic shows pro-legs underneath that don't look 'beetley'. Also, the 'bird-poop' pattern is very common among first instar swallowtails. Otherwise, agreed. Aphids often turn hard, very round and light brown when parasitized, at least close to the time the parasite matures. These are really nice shots.

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Nov 1, 2014 07:28:18   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
relbugman wrote:
I wonder if the first larva is a first instar butterfly, possibly a swallowtail. I don't know what's available in Spain. The second pic shows pro-legs underneath that don't look 'beetley'. Also, the 'bird-poop' pattern is very common among first instar swallowtails. Otherwise, agreed. Aphids often turn hard, very round and light brown when parasitized, at least close to the time the parasite matures. These are really nice shots.
Hi relbugman and thanks for your response. I have often seen the Scarce Swallow butterfly in our garden and I have looked on the web for instars of this and have found a photo which resembles mine very closely. Here is the link: http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/family.php?name=Papilionidae

There are a few on our young Pear tree so I will keep a close eye on their development and keep you updated.

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Nov 1, 2014 10:09:54   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I'd agree with the first being an early caterpillar instar as I have gotten many early instars that were tiny...

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Nov 1, 2014 14:15:57   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I'd agree with the first being an early caterpillar instar as I have gotten many early instars that were tiny...


Thanks for your input Scott. It isn't easy pinning down ID on some of these little critters.

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Nov 1, 2014 14:25:04   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
i also think the 1st is a caterpillar,nice shots

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Nov 1, 2014 16:53:46   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
relbugman wrote:
The second pic shows pro-legs underneath that don't look 'beetley'.
Based on this observation, I have changed my opinion: I also believe it is a first instar caterpillar.

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Nov 1, 2014 18:35:49   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
Thank you all, I will keep watching them.

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Nov 1, 2014 20:33:40   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Based on this observation, I have changed my opinion: I also believe it is a first instar caterpillar.
Thinking the same now too.

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Nov 1, 2014 23:43:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
I have to admit I haven't the foggiest idea what the first few photos are supposed to be but I am with you, Brenda, in saying I agree with Scott, Douglass and Bill. They sure know a lot more about these things than I do. Great photos of all of them including the aphids.

I have some aphids on a couple of my plants at home. I haven't seen any green ones as mine seem to be black in color. I also did not know they can fly.

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Nov 2, 2014 03:07:01   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I have to admit I haven't the foggiest idea what the first few photos are supposed to be but I am with you, Brenda, in saying I agree with Scott, Douglass and Bill. They sure know a lot more about these things than I do. Great photos of all of them including the aphids.
I have some aphids on a couple of my plants at home. I haven't seen any green ones as mine seem to be black in color. I also did not know they can fly.
Hi Dennis, thanks for commenting. I have black aphids as well as green ones and I had the yellow Oleander ones earlier in the year. I understand that not all of the aphids of each variety fly but just some of them later in the season in order to increase their feeding areas. This is quite a fascinating subject and worth a read on the web. The first photos above seem to be the first instar of a butterfly, probably the Scarce Swallowtail which do visit the garden quite often. They are living on the outside of the leaves of a young pear tree so are vulnerable to being eaten and it is late in the season for them, but I hope they do.

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Nov 2, 2014 03:08:40   #
EnglishBrenda Loc: Kent, England
 
Flyextreme wrote:
Thinking the same now too.
:thumbup: What a big puzzle the ID of all these tiny creatures are. :)

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