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Oct 28, 2014 23:43:07   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Google em1 and 75mm. Look at those photos. That's my standard to meet/exceed.

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Oct 29, 2014 00:03:33   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Bridge cameras are a type of mirrorless camera.

The cameras listed above are also mirrorless. They produce some of the best image quality available in the right hands. ;)


Oh boy now I'm really confused. But I'll work on it. Thx

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Oct 29, 2014 00:13:59   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
tita1948 wrote:
Oh boy now I'm really confused. But I'll work on it. Thx


Don't be - forget about bridge cameras

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Oct 29, 2014 00:15:06   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
tdekany wrote:
Don't be - forget about bridge cameras


why

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Oct 29, 2014 00:17:54   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
tita1948 wrote:
why


Because bridge cameras are not for serious work. Tiny sensors, and slow in most cases. It is like trying to use a toyota Prius for racing.

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Oct 29, 2014 00:22:47   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
tita1948 wrote:
...snip...One other question does mirrorless mean the same as bridge? Maybe I'm confusing things.


Ah, here is the real question!!! Maybe you should have done your research before asking the question. And I don't say that in a mean or negative way.
From your question it is not clear whether you own a mirrorless camera or not - now it is clear that you don't, and as well that your are confused about what is what.
Point & Shoot: by definition mirrorless, although not usually referred to as such.
Bridge: Bridges the gap between P&S and dSLR, and I believe most if not all bridge cameras also are mirrorless.
dSLR: Very definitely has a mirror, so that you can see the image you want to take through the optical viewfinder.
Note that there also are cameras that have a second small lens on the front to show the image through an optical viewfinder. I believe they are called range finder cameras (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but I don't think they are being made now.
But we now have the camera that seems to generally be referred to as "mirrorless" and it every bit as good as a dSLR and you can make it do every bit as much as you can make a dSLR do.

Now I have a question for you: All these images that you see as soft, how do you know what camera they were taken with?
Once in a while I'll look at photos on one of the photo websites, or on a private website, but only rarely do I see reference to what camera was used to take those photos with.
Could you give a couple of links to photos you've seen that are soft and taken with a mirrorless camera?

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Oct 29, 2014 01:34:21   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
tdekany wrote:
I'm just going to be blunt. Nothing personal against you, but your I initial question is extremely ignorant. I am sorry. I still can't figure out how one can come to that sort of conclusion, not to mention "as a pro"?????
Do you not know that it is the person behind the camera that takes the picture? So if you see a picture that is not tack sharp, do you not automatically think that that is the user? I mean when I see a less than "tack sharp" picture or pictures posted anywhere that were taken with a dslr I just move on to the next one without ever having that thought cross my mind. Again, I apologise, but this is the most illogical question I have ever seen on a forum. (I wanted to use the word "stupidest" but don't mean to sound mean)
I'm just going to be blunt. Nothing personal again... (show quote)

To the OP, this was a completely unnecessary comment.

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Oct 29, 2014 01:46:07   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
tita1948 wrote:
If you don't have the lens racked out to a ridicules length is there a mirrorless camera that takes tack sharp photos? So far what I have seen leaves me unimpressed. Everything always looks soft.

I hope someone can prove me wrong because I really want one :-)

Ok, let's start from the beginning. When most of us say "mirrorless", we mean a MILC: mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. There are currently 4 sizes of MILCs (not counting some Pentax duds):
1. full frame (1x, Sony A7-series)
2. APS-C (1.5x, Fuji X-series, Sony NEX, Samsung NX)
3. micro 4/3 (Olympus and Panasonic)
4. 1"/CX (Nikon 1 series)

The biggest differences between MILCs and DSLRs tend to be
* an electronic viewfinder (EVF) instead of an optical one (OVF)
* contrast detection AF instead of phase detection AF

The AF system can affect sharpness for action shots, but the sensors are as good as the sensors in DSLRs of the same size. In particular, the Sony A7r sensor is basically the same as the D800 sensor, with image quality about as good as any camera in these categories.

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Oct 29, 2014 01:53:40   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I prefer razor sharp

"Razor sharp" is much to deep for me, whereas "tack sharp" gets right to the point.

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Oct 29, 2014 01:58:52   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
tdekany wrote:
I'm just going to be blunt. Nothing personal against you, but your I initial question is extremely ignorant. I am sorry. I still can't figure out how one can come to that sort of conclusion, not to mention "as a pro"?????
Do you not know that it is the person behind the camera that takes the picture? So if you see a picture that is not tack sharp, do you not automatically think that that is the user? I mean when I see a less than "tack sharp" picture or pictures posted anywhere that were taken with a dslr I just move on to the next one without ever having that thought cross my mind. Again, I apologise, but this is the most illogical question I have ever seen on a forum. (I wanted to use the word "stupidest" but don't mean to sound mean)
I'm just going to be blunt. Nothing personal again... (show quote)
For someone who doesn't want to appear mean, you certainly have a way of doing so in a meandering, senseless and vicious method.

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Oct 29, 2014 02:02:11   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
amehta wrote:
Ok, let's start from the beginning...


Thanks for your input, Amehta. Mirrorless, bridge, 4/3, etc., is foreign ground for a lot of us.

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Oct 29, 2014 02:07:43   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Mogul wrote:
For someone who doesn't want to appear mean, you certainly have a way of doing so in a meandering, senseless and vicious method.



I wouldn't have written if I knew what I now know about the OP. I thought she was a pro selling her pictures. It just didn't make an ounce of sense what she was asking being a professional.

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Oct 29, 2014 02:09:49   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
OddJobber wrote:
Thanks for your input, Amehta. Mirrorless, bridge, 4/3, etc., is foreign ground for a lot of us.

Yes, there are a lot of different options, and the image quality in many cases is quite close, so it is reasonable for some to consider a few of the choices.

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Oct 29, 2014 02:24:31   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
tita1948 wrote:
If you don't have the lens racked out to a ridicules length is there a mirrorless camera that takes tack sharp photos? So far what I have seen leaves me unimpressed. Everything always looks soft.

I hope someone can prove me wrong because I really want one :-)

I use Fuji mirrorless cameras and can attain eye-bleeding-sharp images and I know that a lot of other brands of mirrorless are just as good.
You are welcome to look at or download any of my flickr images full size if you want; they are almost all shot with Fuji Mirrorless cameras.

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Oct 29, 2014 02:27:20   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
So...do you mean "bridge" or "mirrorless"????

Now I'm confused.

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