Water - Very Important: If someone told you when you were a kid that you would soon be paying as much for a bottle of water as for a bottle of Coke, you'd have thought they were crazy.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

If someone told you when you were a kid that you would soon be paying as much for a bottle of water as for a bottle of Coke, you'd have thought they were crazy. It will get worse.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/05/water_is_the_new_oil_how_corporations_took_over_a_basic_human_right/

GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA

I drank water from hose,
and that was this morning.

GT

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

jerryc41 wrote:

If someone told you when you were a kid that you would soon be paying as much for a bottle of water as for a bottle of Coke, you'd have thought they were crazy. It will get worse.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/05/water_is_the_new_oil_how_corporations_took_over_a_basic_human_right/

My Dad, a Republican a retired Army officer, said in the '60s we'd be buying bottled water for subsistence one day.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

wlgoode wrote:

My Dad, a Republican a retired Army officer, said in the '60s we'd be buying bottled water for subsistence one day.

Now it's for convenience. I hope it doesn't become a necessity. The water in China is so polluted that you either boil it or buy bottled - which is what the tourists do.

dljen Loc: Central PA

jerryc41 wrote:

If someone told you when you were a kid that you would soon be paying as much for a bottle of water as for a bottle of Coke, you'd have thought they were crazy. It will get worse.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/05/water_is_the_new_oil_how_corporations_took_over_a_basic_human_right/

I know this is horrible to think of, but also I wonder what my Dad would think of the doomsday scenarios given to us by every link we click foretelling the end of civilization as we know it. Heck, I buy Smartwater, it's made by Coke. And yeah, it is expensive but at least the bottle is halfway decent, which of course will bring on another doom and gloom thingy...what will we do with all the thick discarded plastic bottles that will last a gazillion years! :D

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

dljen wrote:

I know this is horrible to think of, but also I wonder what my Dad would think of the doomsday scenarios given to us by every link we click foretelling the end of civilization as we know it. Heck, I buy Smartwater, it's made by Coke. And yeah, it is expensive but at least the bottle is halfway decent, which of course will bring on another doom and gloom thingy...what will we do with all the thick discarded plastic bottles that will last a gazillion years! :D

Bet it's recyclable too!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

wlgoode wrote:

Bet it's recyclable too!

I was surprised to see that water bottles now have a deposit on them in NY. I seldom buy water (I have a sink and a faucet.), but if I ever do, I'll get a nickel back for each one, just like beer and soda.

Aside from that, I recycle almost everything. It costs $5 to dump a big bag of garbage, but almost everything else can be recycled. The town pays a fee to the county, and they haul it away for processing.

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

jerryc41 wrote:

I was surprised to see that water bottles now have a deposit on them in NY. I seldom buy water (I have a sink and a faucet.), but if I ever do, I'll get a nickel back for each one, just like beer and soda.

Aside from that, I recycle almost everything. It costs $5 to dump a big bag of garbage, but almost everything else can be recycled. The town pays a fee to the county, and they haul it away for processing.

The problem usually is it isn't convenient to recycle, towns could do better at this.

GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA

jerryc41 wrote:

I was surprised to see that water bottles now have a deposit on them in NY. I seldom buy water (I have a sink and a faucet.), but if I ever do, I'll get a nickel back for each one, just like beer and soda.

Aside from that, I recycle almost everything. It costs $5 to dump a big bag of garbage, but almost everything else can be recycled. The town pays a fee to the county, and they haul it away for processing.

Good for you!

We 'try' to recycle everything we can. We aren't perfect, but we are getting better.
We recycle organics in our compost and vermicompost bins too.

We now have very little that goes to the landfill - YAY!

GT

wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ

GTinSoCal wrote:

Good for you!

We 'try' to recycle everything we can. We aren't perfect, but we are getting better.
We recycle organics in our compost and vermicompost bins too.

We now have very little that goes to the landfill - YAY!

GT

I was vermicomposting, thinking of doing it outside. Our temp range here is about 90 F to 30 F at 4000' elevation, any ideas?

GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA

wlgoode wrote:

I was vermicomposting, thinking of doing it outside. Our temp range here is about 90 F to 30 F at 4000' elevation, any ideas?

It is surprisingly addictive :-)

That's even more mild than here :-) we typically drop into the low teens and will have a few weeks above 105 - it is 101 here today

I set up my bin under a tree (it really likes the tea that makes it through) so in the summer it won't get any direct sun, the winter it gets sunlight to help keep it.

I have a 4x8 bin, so there is plenty of mass so the little guys can always find a comfortable spot.

I made the bin out of 8x8x16 block, filled with dirt. used a 4x8 sheet of plywood for the door/roof.

When I'm getting ready to harvest the castings, I'll start feeding at one end of the bin.
After a week or so, they (most) migrate to the new feeding area and I can harvest without getting too many worms.

If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.

GT

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

Clean water will become the new currency.

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

And if you buy smaller bottles of water (less than one gallon) you probably pay more than you pay for gasoline! THAT is a huge rip-off, but people are gullible! But more and more, places that sell water no longer have water fountains - in many airports I have noticed recently that you cannot find water to drink anywhere if you don't want to pay...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

sb wrote:

...in many airports I have noticed recently that you cannot find water to drink anywhere if you don't want to pay...

But you can be sure it's pure and clean, straight from a mountain spring, right? :D

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

dljen wrote:

I know this is horrible to think of, but also I wonder what my Dad would think of the doomsday scenarios given to us by every link we click foretelling the end of civilization as we know it. Heck, I buy Smartwater, it's made by Coke. And yeah, it is expensive but at least the bottle is halfway decent, which of course will bring on another doom and gloom thingy...what will we do with all the thick discarded plastic bottles that will last a gazillion years! :D

Because of Radiation treatments in 1998, I have no Salivary Glands that work. Makes it difficult to eat and I always have a "Dry Mouth" It also affects my dental health. Because of no saliva, I have to ALWAYS have water with me....If I try to eat without it I choke. I buy water by the case at the store, usually paying between three and four dollars for 35 bottle cases. I go through about one and one half cases a month. I make sure I recycle all my water bottles and everything else I can recycle. About once a month I take bags full of recycled materials to a recycle drop off point in St Louis. Whenever I go into a public place like a theater or ball game or restaurant, I carry my water bottle with me....I cannot count the number of times I have been challenged about carrying my bottle water in with me because they want me to buy their price inflated stuff. I usually conceal it if possible to avoid a confrontation.