Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA

I was going to reply to this thread but decided not to when I saw the original date :)

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Basically, you are correct but there are caveats to consider.

In most jurisdictions in the United States and Canada and many other democracies, your concept applies. There are, however, other facts to consider.

Broadcast medial outlets are very aware of all their rights and privileges that can avail themselves of as well as the restriction and legalities. Many photojournalists and video crews have press credentials which may help. They also have budgets to pay lawyers if legal issues arise. Oftentimes, law firms are kept on retainers to handle a wide variety of legal matters having to do with exclusivity, entertainers and performer's rights to restrict photography and all forms of video and recording and various problems that can arise regarding security enforcement- just 9n case a photographer gets manhandled and injired.

There is, of course, freedom of the press, however, on private property, many entertainments and sports venues, and events held by carnival, circus, and amusement promoters- all bets are off and the management can have their own restrictions where permission is required to take still photographs or film at theses events.

On the street and in entirely public places there is no expectation of privacy. It is nonetheless a good idea to always preceded with caution. Most photographers would want to avoid gettg into a fight or confrontation or being attacked by an irate person who does not want to be photographed. Sometimes asking permission is good PR and will garner cooperation rather than an altercation with the police= or worse- an irate mom or a vigilante mob.

Years ago, when I worked for a newspaper, the editors were dog a story on motorcycle gangs. The idiots sent me and a reporter to a rally or kinda jamboree/convention where the gang member wasd meeting up. I figured that wehn those guerrillas saw me with a camera there was gonn be trouble. I approached them and said that if I could shoot some images of them with the HOGS 9Harley-Davidson Motorcycles) their COLORful jackets- I would gladly send them some prints. A bunch of them pose on ther bikes with their girlfriends. A few opted out, they said the cops were looking for them! They gave us some ribs and burgers and invited us to the next rally! These were real gangsters, not dentists and accountants that like biking on weekends! I did send them the pictures.

I have been in cities in North America and abroad where artists and photograher are commonplace, working on the streets and a just part of the culture- and other places folks may be suspicious not at all welcoming. Well- if you are a crusading photojournalist and wanna take a risk and your livelihood depends on getting a particular shot- you take your chances. if you are on vacation and just shooting for fun- you may just wanna walk away! Folk also need to remember that when you are out of the country, the laws and protection may be entirely different and talk pictures in restricted areas or of certain persons, those actions can land you in the Bastille. OK, I know they shut that place down in 1789- but y'all get the idea!

When the local gentry is paranoid enough, if you are carrying a big camera with a long lens you can be perceived as a voyuer or an assassin- or with a small pocket-sized P & S model, you can be made out to be a spy. You can't win with crazy people!

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Fear of zombies ???
Don’t be a chikkinschidt ...
climb aboard !

saminpa2001

There are laws and there is morality. There is no law against screaming at an elderly person slowly crossing the street. I think it would be immoral. Some get confused over laws and morality. I have all kinds of street photos of people and police. It may be different in PA.

Just saying....

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E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

YUP! They should make those datelines LARGER! Anyway- a good conversation resulted and it is still an issue. So it wasn't a total waste of time!

Vault Loc: Gig Harbor, WA and Yuma, AZ

It's all about the assault camera syndrome.

saminpa2001

Amen, Erv

saminpa2001

Amen, Erv

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What ... no funky hat ??!?!?

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joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

One wrong move backwards, and a nice 3000-foot roll downhill 😲😎😲😎😲

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Maybe the whole image is pure AI, generated from a text description like, "Crazy old codger on roof of vehicle with .... blah blah blah."

AI has obsoleted the old fallback comment of "You just cant make this schidt up." Today, if you can make it up, AI can deliver it.

I loooooove our AI threads. Best boost to the UHH Clown Car since the Foveon Debates.

Harry02 Loc: Gardena, CA

I've gone to quite a few events. KLately if it looks like a "real" camera you get confronted.
Cell phone, or one of those flat pocket cams?
No prob!

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There is a middle ground, gearwise, in small versatile harmless looking m4/3 cameras.

Some are chrome and black, with a disarming "bought it at a thrift store" look. Ive even got a red and black one that no one ever sees as threatening their imagined right to privacy.

Orphoto Loc: Oregon

Guys, don't hesitate to add your opinions to a 9 year old thread! Others want your thoughts. desperately!

sroter Loc: Montreal,Quebec. Canada

This looks like a image I saw years ago of Ansel Adams.