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Sep 26, 2014 18:53:38   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
Abbykats wrote:
I know I can take great sharp pictures with the camera I have but I know peole who have dslr and when my camera takes nice photos 60-70 precent of the time and theres it like 90 percent of the time it would be nice to have that because I have had to delete pictures that had the potential to be fantastic but they weren't because they came out blurry and for the most part dslr camera take fantastic sharp pictures 90 present of the time that it the main reason

A DSLR will take a sharp picture most of the time unless you have the wrong settings. The same is true for P & S, Bridge, or Micro 4/3s.

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Sep 26, 2014 19:00:00   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Abbykats wrote:
I know I can take great sharp pictures with the camera I have but I know peole who have dslr and when my camera takes nice photos 60-70 precent of the time and theres it like 90 percent of the time it would be nice to have that because I have had to delete pictures that had the potential to be fantastic but they weren't because they came out blurry and for the most part dslr camera take fantastic sharp pictures 90 present of the time that it the main reason


And here we go again...DSLR, DSLR, DSLR...

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Sep 26, 2014 19:04:36   #
mdsiamese Loc: Maryland
 
RWR wrote:
Not to dissuade you from buying a DSLR, but it seems as if the problem may lie more in technique than equipment. :)


Actually, it may be equipment and not technique. If the point and shoot does not have a viewfinder, then the user has to focus with the LCD, and focusing that way is prone to camera shake because the camera is not in as stable a hold. DSLRs have viewfinders, getting in-focus through a viewfinder requires a stronger more stable hold, easier to do and more likely to be in-focus than through the LCD.

The original poster said animals are the main subject. A point and shoot is not fast as fast as a DSLR and is harder to focus quickly. This is one subject area where point and shoot really lags behind DSLR.

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Sep 26, 2014 19:07:08   #
wmarcoux Loc: Massachusetts
 
mdsiamese wrote:
I take a lot of cat pictures, so I understand your dilemma.

If you take pix of dogs and animals, then yes, you want to advance beyond a point and shoot. The biggest concern with animals is that they don't pose. They move. A lot. And they don't listen. So if it takes your camera a second to take the shot, you miss it because dogs and cats just don't usually hold still. With a DSLR, you can get several frames per second. You won't miss those shots. Makes all the difference in the world! When you compare models, look for the fps setting and try to get the fastest one you can afford, also the fastest focusing camera that you can afford. But really, any DSLR is going to be faster than a point and shoot and will help you take better pet photos.


Before you pick a brand, you need to consider the available lenses. You need to be able to get lenses that open to a wide aperture so that you can get more light in your photos. This is very important with pets because you want to avoid flash. Flash does bad enough things to human eyes, but with dogs and especially cats it just turns them into zombies. Look for lenses with wide apertures, cameras with fast fps, focus and good high ISO performance.


Next, set a reasonable price limit and max it out, be happy with what you buy. The first DSLR I bought was a Nikon D90. I could have afforded a D700, but I thought to myself "you really don't need a full frame D700, so why spend all that money?" I was never really happy with the high ISO performance of the D90, so after 2 months I got the D700 and have been happy ever since. Get the maximum camera that you can afford that makes you happy.
I take a lot of cat pictures, so I understand your... (show quote)


Good answer. I used to try and take pet pictures in my Veterinary Practice with a point and shoot and could not get it to focus and shoot quick enough. Maybe the point and shoot cameras are better now but a dslr will definitely get the job done. I would not discourage it.

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Sep 27, 2014 06:03:20   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
wmarcoux wrote:
Good answer. I used to try and take pet pictures in my Veterinary Practice with a point and shoot and could not get it to focus and shoot quick enough. Maybe the point and shoot cameras are better now but a dslr will definitely get the job done. I would not discourage it.


As would FT, MFT, other mirrorless hybrids, and bridge (such as SX 50 or HS 50) ? :)

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Sep 27, 2014 06:50:22   #
BrettOssman Loc: near Tampa, Florida
 
rpavich wrote:
First Q:

Why do you want a DSLR?

What is your current P&S not doing for you? (be honest)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 27, 2014 06:50:56   #
CherylZ
 
I agree about going to a camera store and seeing how the different cameras fit in your hand. I had tried several larger DSLR's and the weight of them was too much for my wrists. My first camera other than a point and shoot was an Olympus Pen E-PL1. Can't believe that in just a few years time, there is now an E-PL5. I just got a Canon Rebel SL1. Am enjoying it very much. It you have small hands, it will fit fine. Love how it functions. It's very easy to use. One other suggestion. When I got the Olympus, I took a class from a certified teacher. One of the best suggestions he gave us in learning our camera, no matter what the brand, was to see if there is a Dummie book for it. He also said that David Busch has good books on the different cameras too.

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Sep 27, 2014 07:04:41   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
It's nice to buy new things, especially if you want them. Just because that '48 Chevy gets you to the store and back, that doesn't mean you can't buy a new car.

I have had many DSLRs - my favorite type of camera. I also have several P&S, and I tried the Sony NEX cameras. I like DSLRs, and I don't have to apologize for that or defend my preference to anyone. Neither do you.

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Sep 27, 2014 08:03:58   #
Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Abbykats wrote:
I am kind of new to photography and I have a point and shoot Canon camera and I love it it is just that I am looking for an upgade in camera preferably a dslr if you have any suggestions for me that would be grate oh yeah and I mainlyInly take pictures of my dogs and other animals


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Sep 27, 2014 08:08:19   #
BrettOssman Loc: near Tampa, Florida
 
Just a thought. Rent a dSLR for a weekend that seems to have features YOU care about. Shoot the same shots with both. See if you notice a difference.

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Sep 27, 2014 08:49:50   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's nice to buy new things, especially if you want them. Just because that '48 Chevy gets you to the store and back, that doesn't mean you can't buy a new car.

I have had many DSLRs - my favorite type of camera. I also have several P&S, and I tried the Sony NEX cameras. I like DSLRs, and I don't have to apologize for that or defend my preference to anyone. Neither do you.


:) :D :-D :-D

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Sep 27, 2014 09:58:24   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's nice to buy new things, especially if you want them. Just because that '48 Chevy gets you to the store and back, that doesn't mean you can't buy a new car.

I have had many DSLRs - my favorite type of camera. I also have several P&S, and I tried the Sony NEX cameras. I like DSLRs, and I don't have to apologize for that or defend my preference to anyone. Neither do you.


Well said, Jerry!

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Sep 27, 2014 10:15:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rpavich wrote:
First Q:

Why do you want a DSLR?

What is your current P&S not doing for you? (be honest)


With all due respect and with tongue somewhat in cheek, I knew someone would ask this question. For me it is enough that the person wants an upgrade and if they have the money to pay for it they who cares. Possibly the OP isn't into photography enough to even know what their present camera can or can't do. They want something different.

Dennis

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Sep 27, 2014 12:28:33   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Abbykats wrote:
... I mainly take pictures of my dogs and other animals


For your purposes, a DSLR would be great. The reason it's the best choice is the ability to shoot fast, to track moving subjects and the generally affordable flexibility of a DSLR system, which can easily be adapted for many difference purposes. You will also in most cases see a significant difference in image quality, coming from a point n shoot with a tiny sensor to an APS-C size sensor DSLR. The larger sensor also will allow you to use a considerably higher ISO, for lower light shooting.

But, how much do you want to spend?

I'll use some Canon examples below, just because that's what I use and am most familiar with. You have other choices... Canon and Nikon offer the most extensive systems, but other manufacturers might offer all you'll ever need.

To me, one ideal starter system for pet photography would be a Canon 70D with an EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS USM and EF 70-200/4L IS USM lenses. This is not cheap, but also isn't over-the-top expensive. This would be a roughly $3000 kit.

70D has a fairly advanced AF system... 19 points, all of which are faster/more accurate "cross type". It's also able to shoot 7 frames per second. For low angle shooting, it has an articulated LCD screen and a new method of Live View focus that's one of the quickest and most accurate from any manufacturer. This is a fairly advanced camera, but it has a lot of support for first-time DSLR users, too. It uses a "true" pentaprism to give a larger, brighter viewfinder, but at a little additional cost and weight... 70D currently costs about $1100 from reputable stores.

The EF-S 17-55mm has f2.8 for low light and offers very high image quality. It has image stabilization and faster/more accurate/quieter USM auto focus drive. This would be your "walk-around" lens a lot of the time, useful indoors and short telephoto at 55mm for portraits, yet wide enough at 17mm for some scenics. This lens sells for about $880, and the separately sold lens hood for it goes for another $24. The 17-55mm is not sold in kits, but sometimes goes on sale (Canon Instant Rebates occur several times per year).

For more reach when chasing those puppies, the EF 70-200/4L IS USM will be a real workhorse of a lens, also with image stabilization and USM focus, as well as covering a very useful telephoto range. I'm suggesting the f4 version because it's about half the price of the f2.8 version. It's also about 1/3 smaller and lighter. This lens sells for $1300 right now, including the matching lens hood (with the f4 versions of Canon 70-200s, the tripod mounting ring is sold separately for about $160). Also not sold in kits, but also usually included in Canon Instant Rebate programs.

You might be able to get by with a single lens initially... the Canon EF-S 15-85mm IS USM is a top quality choice with both stabilization and USM focus drive ($900 + $24 for the separately sold hood). It doesn't have f2.8 aperture. But gives versatility with both wider and longer focal lengths in a single zoom, compared to the 17-55mm.

The 15-85mm also might pair up better for you with a longer telephoto such as the EF 100-400mm IS USM, if that were your choice... a 100-400 might be better for wildlife, birds... and okay for pets... but a bigger, heavier, and more expensive lens ($1700, incl. hood and tripod mounting ring).

Lower cost Canon camera alternatives:

Rebel T5i/700D instead of 70D... The $700 T5i has a bit more support for first time DSLR users, but is a little slower to shoot with, 5 fps (instead of 7 fps), and slightly different control layout. Also 1/4000 top shutter speed (vs 1/8000 on 70D), 1/200 flash sync (vs 1/250 on 70D).

T5i also has less sophisticated AF system.... 9 points (vs 19 on 70D and 7D, 65 on 7D Mark II), although all 9 points are the "better" cross type. T5i has two focus patterns: All Points and Single Point (vs three on 70D: All Pts, Single Pt, and Zone.... vs five on 7D: All Pts, Single Pt, Spot Single Pt, zone and Expansion... vs seven on 7D Mark II: All Pts, Single Pt, Spot Single Pt, Coarse Zone, Fine Zone, 4-Pt Expansion, 8-Pt Expansion. T5i has articulated LCD screen and Live View, but it's LV focus method is an older type that's considerably slower.

Rebel T3i/600D... Similar to T5i, except less expensive at $550 (with basic 18-55mm kit lens), it uses a simpler 9-point AF system with only the single, center point the "better" cross type. And not quite 4 frames per second shooting speed.

The Rebel SL1 is an especially small and lightweight DSLR. Functionally it's very similar to T3i, except it's LCD screen is not articulated. It sells with 18-55mm kit lens for about $50 more than T3i. There are also T5 and T3, which are the most entry level Rebel models (T5 is fairly new and likely will replace the T3 in the line-up).

I am not recommending the 7D or 7D Mark II for someone buying their first DSLR... both these are aimed at fairly experienced users and have less support for beginners. The now-five-year-old 7D is selling out at very good prices, and can be better than 70D in some ways for action photography, but is relatively older model now. 7D Mark II sounds like quite a nice upgrade, but is going to be considerably more expensive than 70D when it comes available later in October.

Lower cost Canon lens alternatives:

Often you can buy lenses in kit with the camera for some savings. There are manufacturer assembled kits (i.e., Canon put lens & camera together)... and there are retailer assembled kits. In general, the manufacturer assembled kits are pretty good. Some of the retailer are, too... but some are not and you have to be very careful about what's being included in the kit.

With Canon cameras you will find several Canon lenses bundled in kits, which are also available separately at lower cost than the more advanced lenses mentioned above...

EF-S 18-55mm IS "Mark II" is the most common and least expensive kit lens. It's decent optically (a lot better than the earlier versions), but has rather pokey and noisy micro motor focus drive. If bought separately, it sells for about $200 (plus $25 for the lens hood).

EF-S 18-55mm IS STM is a step up that's about $50 more expensive and has smoother, quieter, maybe a little faster and more accurate "Stepper Motor" auto focus. It's especially good for videography. For still photography, the USM (Ultrasonic) focus drive found on the more advanced lenses is better yet, especially for action photography because it's the fastest and can be the most accurate.

EF-S 18-135mm IS is a significant step up from the 18-55, both in build quality and in focal length range, that costs about $500 bought separately. It's another micro motor lens, and there is also an STM version that sells for about $50 more.

The 18-55mm are more likely to be offered in bundles with the Rebel/xxxD series cameras. The 18-135mm is more likely to be offered bundled with the more advanced 60D, 70D series and 7D series cameras.

EF-S 55-250mm IS is sometimes found as a kit lens in two-lens bundles. It's got surprisingly good image quality for a $250 lens (when purchased separately). And, yes, there is a $50 more expensive STM version of this lens, too. All around, it's a fine lens.

An older design EF 75-300mm is sometimes found offered as a second lens in two-lens bundles... It's one of Canon's least successful lenses and I'd suggest avoiding it. Not to be confused with several much better, but more expensive EF 70-300s (and certainly not the premium 70-200s)... the 75-300 can be found selling separately for $200 and less.

All these micro motor and STM focus drive lenses will not be as good tracking and keeping up with active subjects, compared to the more premium USM lenses mentioned above. STM will be better than micro motor. And STM is the top choice for video (so long as it's paired with a camera that can take advantage of it). But for still photos of moving subjects, USM is better than STM.

I'm sure if you look at Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Sony, etc. you will find similar choices.

If you decide on Canon, one way to stretch your budget a bit further can be with refurbished cameras and lenses at the Canon Online Store. These are often demos or just returned overstock, sometimes have little or no real use... You'll often see a spike in what's offered right after a trade-show, and it's a pretty good bet they are selling off what was shown and used there. Higher end gear is sometimes returns from the Canon Professional Network lender system, right after major events (i.e., the Super Bowl), where Canon shows up with a truckload of gear in support of the pros shooting the event. Of course, sometimes it's returned items and might be repaired.

But, Canon's refurbs now typically carry the same warranty as new and they have a liberal return/exchange policy, if unhappy with what you receive. Some of the major online retailers also occasionally have refurbs to sell (Adorama and B&H Photo, for example). Or, check out their used equipment departments, for some savings. Of course, many folks simply prefer brand new. And that's fine, too.

There are also third party lenses (and other accessories) that might help you stretch your budget a bit. The "big three" are Sigma, Tamron and Tokina... and they offer some good lenses. I prefer OEM when possible... I figure Canon is the best at optimizing their lens performance on their cameras. Third party manufacturers have to reverse-engineer things, while avoiding patent infringements, making their job a bit more difficult. But 3rd party stuff can be attractively priced... and might do the job very well... and sometimes even offers things the OEM system doesn't. So it's worth considering.

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Sep 27, 2014 12:37:54   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
Abbykats wrote:
I am kind of new to photography and I have a point and shoot Canon camera and I love it it is just that I am looking for an upgade in camera preferably a dslr if you have any suggestions for me that would be grate oh yeah and I mainlyInly take pictures of my dogs and other animals


Go to a camera store - or friends - and try various types and makes of cameras out. When you decide on a type/make look around for a second owner one - it will be much cheaper and give you a good idea of that type of camera. You can then keep it or have learnt what you really need/want.

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