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Sep 17, 2014 11:33:59   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
For my Olympus OM-D E-M1:
One thing I had not noticed before: (I've had this camera only since early this year, and there is a lot to learn):
While at first glance, I thought the aspect ratio of 4:3 was the same as the 3:4, just turned sideways, it is not.
The aspect ratio native to my camera is 4:3 or 4608 x 3456 pixels. The seemingly same/turned 3:4 is 2592 x 3456 pixels.
Great for 8x10 portraits or a bit larger, but the 4:3 pixels would allow for a minimum of 15x11, even 18x13 inches quite easily.

What I really want to say with all that, is that if your camera has a "portrait orientation" setting such as this 3:4, check the number of pixels, so you don't end up with a photo that's smaller than you wanted. I for one, will be just turning my camera sideways for portraits or portrait orientation.

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Sep 17, 2014 11:37:03   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
err, instead of using all this why not use the sensor to its full potential and crop later at whatever ratio you need???

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Sep 17, 2014 11:43:45   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
err, instead of using all this why not use the sensor to its full potential and crop later at whatever ratio you need???


I agree, and I can't be bothered changing image ratios while using the camera. But another thread as well as a conversation I had with someone a few days ago, prompted me to go looking and that's when I discovered this.
IF the camera shows the cropped image in the viewfinder or on the back screen, I think it would actually be easier for some people to get the composition they want.

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Sep 17, 2014 11:52:36   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
One caveat... This is 'great' but how will they account for the potential matting/framing of their pictures?

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Sep 17, 2014 12:52:41   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Interesting to read this.

I just checked, and both my Canon SX50 and my Canon T3i keep the same amount of pixels regardless of orientation.

The 12 mp SX50 is 4:3, with 4000x3000 (or 3000x4000). The 16 mp T3i is 3:2, with 5184x3456 (or 3456x5184).

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Sep 17, 2014 20:25:23   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Interesting to read this.

I just checked, and both my Canon SX50 and my Canon T3i keep the same amount of pixels regardless of orientation.

The 12 mp SX50 is 4:3, with 4000x3000 (or 3000x4000). The 16 mp T3i is 3:2, with 5184x3456 (or 3456x5184).


I think the OP was talking about a setting to get a PORTRAIT orientation shot while holding the camera HORIZONTAL. That will definitely cut off the sides!! With ANY camera if you use the full resolution and just tip the camera you will get much better results while using ALL of the available pixels!!

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Sep 17, 2014 20:27:03   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Morning Star wrote:
For my Olympus OM-D E-M1:
One thing I had not noticed before: (I've had this camera only since early this year, and there is a lot to learn):
While at first glance, I thought the aspect ratio of 4:3 was the same as the 3:4, just turned sideways, it is not.
The aspect ratio native to my camera is 4:3 or 4608 x 3456 pixels. The seemingly same/turned 3:4 is 2592 x 3456 pixels.
Great for 8x10 portraits or a bit larger, but the 4:3 pixels would allow for a minimum of 15x11, even 18x13 inches quite easily.

What I really want to say with all that, is that if your camera has a "portrait orientation" setting such as this 3:4, check the number of pixels, so you don't end up with a photo that's smaller than you wanted. I for one, will be just turning my camera sideways for portraits or portrait orientation.
For my Olympus OM-D E-M1: br One thing I had not ... (show quote)


The 3:4 setting you are talking about must be for taking a 'portrait' orientation crop while holding the camera horizontally.

Just use the 4:3 that gives you ALL of the pixels and rotate the camera to take portrait orientation shots!!

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Sep 17, 2014 21:08:39   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Wahawk wrote:
The 3:4 setting you are talking about must be for taking a 'portrait' orientation crop while holding the camera horizontally.

Just use the 4:3 that gives you ALL of the pixels and rotate the camera to take portrait orientation shots!!


Yes, that's exactly it. As it is, from film-days I was used to turning the camera sideways to take any photo in portrait orientation and old habits are hard to break ;-)

The reason I brought it up here, is that I'm sure people may see this portrait orientation but never pay attention to the pixel numbers and don't realize a crop is involved.

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Sep 18, 2014 08:33:47   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Wahawk wrote:
I think the OP was talking about a setting to get a PORTRAIT orientation shot while holding the camera HORIZONTAL. That will definitely cut off the sides!! With ANY camera if you use the full resolution and just tip the camera you will get much better results while using ALL of the available pixels!!


Ah, thanks for clarification :)

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Sep 18, 2014 09:10:25   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Morning Star wrote:
For my Olympus OM-D E-M1:
One thing I had not noticed before: (I've had this camera only since early this year, and there is a lot to learn):
While at first glance, I thought the aspect ratio of 4:3 was the same as the 3:4, just turned sideways, it is not.
The aspect ratio native to my camera is 4:3 or 4608 x 3456 pixels. The seemingly same/turned 3:4 is 2592 x 3456 pixels.
Great for 8x10 portraits or a bit larger, but the 4:3 pixels would allow for a minimum of 15x11, even 18x13 inches quite easily.

What I really want to say with all that, is that if your camera has a "portrait orientation" setting such as this 3:4, check the number of pixels, so you don't end up with a photo that's smaller than you wanted. I for one, will be just turning my camera sideways for portraits or portrait orientation.
For my Olympus OM-D E-M1: br One thing I had not ... (show quote)


Yep, with Oly cameras it is usually best to leave it on its native aspect ratio and crop later. I do a lot of shooting in Portrait orientation, even landscapes, and just turn the camera. Other decisions cost pixels. Of course cropping costs pixels too but you can decide which ones to keep! I think a lot of the specialty setting in our Oly cameras are to provide almost all processing you might want to do to a photo IN-CAMERA without any computer PP. Since I actually like computer PP, I don't use a lot of those settings. But if you like in-camera pp, there's so much you can do now.

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Sep 18, 2014 10:47:34   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
err, instead of using all this why not use the sensor to its full potential and crop later at whatever ratio you need???

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YES!

I do this as well. :-)

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