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This is what happens because the left denigrates this country and sends a signal it is OK to disrespect our warriors
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Sep 15, 2014 15:18:38   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdSNYQt7R2k

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Sep 15, 2014 16:08:52   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Crag,
How the hell do you equate this one action with 50% of the population?
I'm betting that there were at least half of those people who identify themselves as Conservatives.

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Sep 15, 2014 16:14:53   #
New York Steve Loc: St. Augustine, Florida
 
Frank T wrote:
Crag,
How the hell do you equate this one action with 50% of the population?


Where was that done?

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Sep 15, 2014 16:19:46   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
So what is your point and where does left v right come in?

Personally I'm a liberal, but also a gun owner and 30 year army veteran. I consider the extreme right far more dangerous than the extreme left, but fail to see any connection to any political ideology in the video above.

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Sep 15, 2014 16:47:01   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
I really didn't get much of what he said but let me say this:
"When the public is asked or allowed to enter or participate in military ceremonies it is not always clear or understood what the proper etiquette for each occasion might be and should not be held against them!"
We all honor our military, especially those who gave it all !
There are no party lines in cemeteries!

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Sep 15, 2014 18:10:24   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
asiafish wrote:
So what is your point and where does left v right come in?

Personally I'm a liberal, but also a gun owner and 30 year army veteran. I consider the extreme right far more dangerous than the extreme left, but fail to see any connection to any political ideology in the video above.



Just out of curiosity, how can a gun owner support people who are bending over backwards, day in, day out, to take citizen's guns away from them? Also, how can a 30 yr Army veteran support people who DESPISE our military? Please don't bother to say neither of the above is true, as there is 100 times more than sufficient evidence to back up both statements.

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Sep 15, 2014 18:37:04   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
Gitzo wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how can a gun owner support people who are bending over backwards, day in, day out, to take citizen's guns away from them? Also, how can a 30 yr Army veteran support people who DESPISE our military? Please don't bother to say neither of the above is true, as there is 100 times more than sufficient evidence to back up both statements.


Because guns and military aren't my only issues. How can an atheist like me support a party that wants to stick its religious nonsense everywhere? How can someone who is vehemently pro-choice support a party that is trying to take away abortion rights?

There are plenty of issues, and we all have to make choices on all of them that matter to us.

Oh, the Democrats aren't anti-military, they are anti Iraq war. That little bit of GOP stupidity led to the many problems the region faces today.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:19:11   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
asiafish wrote:
So what is your point and where does left v right come in?

Personally I'm a liberal, but also a gun owner and 30 year army veteran. I consider the extreme right far more dangerous than the extreme left, but fail to see any connection to any political ideology in the video above.


My point being that the disrespect comes from the constant barrage by the left of not recognizing that evil exists, and if it wasn't for the sacrifices these warriors made we would all be up shit's creek. I'll bet you the citizens above a certain age know how to behave in a shrine like this, but the morons today who watch the liberal media, media that are hell bent on turning us into a socialist state, think this is just another reality show.

I am appalled at the lack of respect exhibited by these cretins.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:20:55   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
New York Steve wrote:
Where was that done?


Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:22:58   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
Cragzop wrote:
My point being that the disrespect comes from the constant barrage by the left of not recognizing that evil exists, and if it wasn't for the sacrifices these warriors made we would all be up shit's creek. I'll bet you the citizens above a certain age know how to behave in a shrine like this, but the morons today who watch the liberal media, media that are hell bent on turning us into a socialist state, think this is just another reality show.

I am appalled at the lack of respect exhibited by these cretins.
My point being that the disrespect comes from the ... (show quote)


The barrage from the right is equal in its lack of respect. Never before in history has any US president been subject to such outright, blatant insults and disrespect.

The left didn't particularly care for George W. Bush, but they never insulted him to his face, called him a liar, etc. Nobody ever attacked John McCain's (born in Panama) birth certificate, though to this day people claim Obama was born in Kenya. Funny thing is that even if he was born in Kenya (he wasn't), it wouldn't matter. His mother was a US Citizen who had lived at least 10 years in the USA, 5 years before Barrack's birth. Guess what, under US law in effect at the time that is all it takes to transmit native born US citizenship. How do I know this? Well, I'm a former INS Senior Special Agent and currently an immigration attorney, that is WHAT I DO for a living.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:23:55   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
Frank T wrote:
Crag,
How the hell do you equate this one action with 50% of the population?
I'm betting that there were at least half of those people who identify themselves as Conservatives.


Yeah, the half that showed respect.

There are many examples of people who are so ignorant of the basic protocol for shrines like this. It is pathetic and part and parcel of where the country is heading.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:24:15   #
asiafish Loc: Bakersfield, CA
 
Cragzop wrote:
My point being that the disrespect comes from the constant barrage by the left of not recognizing that evil exists, and if it wasn't for the sacrifices these warriors made we would all be up shit's creek. I'll bet you the citizens above a certain age know how to behave in a shrine like this, but the morons today who watch the liberal media, media that are hell bent on turning us into a socialist state, think this is just another reality show.

I am appalled at the lack of respect exhibited by these cretins.
My point being that the disrespect comes from the ... (show quote)


The disrespectful morons belong to BOTH spectrums of American politics. Only the Faux news crowd would suggest it is a Left issue, it is a Youth issue.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:32:12   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
asiafish wrote:
The barrage from the right is equal in its lack of respect. Never before in history has any US president been subject to such outright, blatant insults and disrespect.

The left didn't particularly care for George W. Bush, but they never insulted him to his face, called him a liar, etc. Nobody ever attacked John McCain's (born in Panama) birth certificate, though to this day people claim Obama was born in Kenya. Funny thing is that even if he was born in Kenya (he wasn't), it wouldn't matter. His mother was a US Citizen who had lived at least 10 years in the USA, 5 years before Barrack's birth. Guess what, under US law in effect at the time that is all it takes to transmit native born US citizenship. How do I know this? Well, I'm a former INS Senior Special Agent and currently an immigration attorney, that is WHAT I DO for a living.
The barrage from the right is equal in its lack of... (show quote)


Never insulted him? What the hell have you been smoking? I'm not going to get into a tete a tete with you over the accusations that Bush faced from the left. I am no apologist for Bush, but in typical leftist fashion you obfuscate the issue by bringing up distortions and desperate bullshit. The left tried to attack his wife as well, something you guys forget.

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Sep 15, 2014 23:32:41   #
cawoods
 
asiafish wrote:
The barrage from the right is equal in its lack of respect. Never before in history has any US president been subject to such outright, blatant insults and disrespect.

The left didn't particularly care for George W. Bush, but they never insulted him to his face, called him a liar, etc. Nobody ever attacked John McCain's (born in Panama) birth certificate, though to this day people claim Obama was born in Kenya. Funny thing is that even if he was born in Kenya (he wasn't), it wouldn't matter. His mother was a US Citizen who had lived at least 10 years in the USA, 5 years before Barrack's birth. Guess what, under US law in effect at the time that is all it takes to transmit native born US citizenship. How do I know this? Well, I'm a former INS Senior Special Agent and currently an immigration attorney, that is WHAT I DO for a living.
The barrage from the right is equal in its lack of... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 15, 2014 23:35:49   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
asiafish wrote:
The disrespectful morons belong to BOTH spectrums of American politics. Only the Faux news crowd would suggest it is a Left issue, it is a Youth issue.


Due to lack of experience and naivete, youth tends to be liberal.

Funny how 1 network, FOX, shows up on the scene and you guys get your panties in a knot. What about the blatant bias of NPR and other "public" networks supported by my tax dollars?

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