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Sep 13, 2014 22:04:35   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
I need to rescan a roll of slides for improved quality. The old scans already exist with all the pertinent metadata in a folder. I seem to remember reading that there is a way to transfer the metadata from all the old scans to all the new scans in one operation. Is that so? And if so, how do I do that? I am running a Mac with the latest OS using PS CC and Bridge. Have not had the guts to attempt LR although I have it.

Thanks for any help,
Brian

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Sep 14, 2014 09:28:13   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Brian, I Googled for "transfer metadata to new scans" - but all I could find was how to fiddle with existing metadata.

Are the metadata attached to each image? And I'm thinking that you've added things like location, or keywords, that kind of thing?

One "procedure" comes to mind, and I'd copy an image with its metadata to a different location first, then try it:
Scan the same image again, and give it exactly the same name as the "old" image, then overwrite the olde with the new. Now check the metadata: Is everything still there?

If I'm completely off-track, maybe you could post a sample of an image with metadata intact, by checking the 'save original' box? That way we can see what you have, and play with it as well.

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Sep 14, 2014 09:48:24   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
bw79st wrote:
I need to rescan a roll of slides for improved quality. The old scans already exist with all the pertinent metadata in a folder. I seem to remember reading that there is a way to transfer the metadata from all the old scans to all the new scans in one operation. Is that so? And if so, how do I do that? I am running a Mac with the latest OS using PS CC and Bridge. Have not had the guts to attempt LR although I have it.

Thanks for any help,
Brian


Brian, I am assuming you have 36 or less images to scan and add the metadata. I would assume that there is common metadata in each image. I would also assume that there are some images with different metadata.

For the common metadata you can create a metadata template in Bridge. Once created you can select all of the images in bridge and then apply the template. In Bridge click Tools>Create Metadata Template. Once created it is accessed from the File Info dialog box. Look at the bottom of the box right next to the preferences tab. You will have to click the arrow to find your saved template name.

For the images with different metadata you will need to apply it separately to the image. But how long can that take?

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Sep 14, 2014 11:03:14   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
Morning Star wrote:
Brian, I Googled for "transfer metadata to new scans" - but all I could find was how to fiddle with existing metadata.

Are the metadata attached to each image? And I'm thinking that you've added things like location, or keywords, that kind of thing?

One "procedure" comes to mind, and I'd copy an image with its metadata to a different location first, then try it:
Scan the same image again, and give it exactly the same name as the "old" image, then overwrite the olde with the new. Now check the metadata: Is everything still there?

If I'm completely off-track, maybe you could post a sample of an image with metadata intact, by checking the 'save original' box? That way we can see what you have, and play with it as well.
Brian, I Googled for "transfer metadata to ne... (show quote)


Thanks for putting some thought into this. Yes the metadata is attached to each file, these are DNG files created using Vuescan and a Canon US4000 scanner. The metadata was added in Bridge and in most cases the "Description" is quite different from file to file.

I tried your suggestion of scanning the new file with the same name as the old file. Either Vuescan or my Mac wouldn't do it and renumbered the file to the next consecutive number. In other words the new scan of 196811_02.dng became 196811_03.dng. Yes, I remembered to remove the "+" sign in Vuescan's naming convention.

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Sep 14, 2014 11:12:45   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
bw79st wrote:
I tried your suggestion of scanning the new file with the same name as the old file. Either Vuescan or my Mac wouldn't do it and renumbered the file to the next consecutive number. In other words the new scan of 196811_02.dng became 196811_03.dng. Yes, I remembered to remove the "+" sign in Vuescan's naming convention.


Place in a different folder, rename, then move?

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Sep 14, 2014 11:17:02   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
jpintn wrote:
Brian, I am assuming you have 36 or less images to scan and add the metadata. I would assume that there is common metadata in each image. I would also assume that there are some images with different metadata.

For the common metadata you can create a metadata template in Bridge. Once created you can select all of the images in bridge and then apply the template. In Bridge click Tools>Create Metadata Template. Once created it is accessed from the File Info dialog box. Look at the bottom of the box right next to the preferences tab. You will have to click the arrow to find your saved template name.

For the images with different metadata you will need to apply it separately to the image. But how long can that take?
Brian, I am assuming you have 36 or less images to... (show quote)


Metadata common to all the images is no problem, that can easily be handled in Bridge. There is also really no problem in copying the unique data from the old slides to the new, one by one, field by field, but I really have quite a few rolls of slides to do, not just one or two.

I do have a template to handle the boilerplate info such as name, address, etc.

When it comes down to it, it takes 15 minutes to scan each frame and during that time I can adjust levels on the previous scans and transfer the metadata, field by field. The problem with that is all the old frames must be renamed so that I can have them in the same folder as the new ones in order to easily handle them in Bridge. Not that big a deal but a somewhat inelegant solution.

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Sep 14, 2014 11:28:32   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
Morning Star wrote:
Place in a different folder, rename, then move?


That won't work. I tried it and the new file overwrote the old file entirely. These are DNG files so there is no sidecar XMP file.

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