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Hundreds of bird species at risk due to climate change
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Sep 9, 2014 10:48:05   #
Galaxy Loc: Northeastern Michigan
 
Just a FYI since so many of us like to take pictures of birds or just plain like to watch them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/09/08/climate-change-birds-audubon-society/15299231/

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Sep 9, 2014 10:52:59   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Galaxy wrote:
Just a FYI since so many of us like to take pictures of birds or just plain like to watch them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/09/08/climate-change-birds-audubon-society/15299231/


The article likes to use words like "Could" or "Might"

Just saying the Earth has gone through warming trends before and will do so in the future ;)

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Sep 9, 2014 11:56:45   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Here we go again. The deniers will be here in just a moment. Can't have science interfering with what they believe.

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Sep 9, 2014 12:00:41   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Frank T wrote:
Here we go again. The deniers will be here in just a moment. Can't have science interfering with what they believe.


So Frank,

Are you saying there hasn't been seasons of warming over the life of our earth?

I didn't remark as to say we aren't in the middle of a warming, nor have I said that the birds are not being affected, just that this isn't the first nor last time this will happen.

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Sep 9, 2014 12:09:40   #
tom kf4wol
 
Beercat wrote:
The article likes to use words like "Could" or "Might"

Just saying the Earth has gone through warming trends before and will do so in the future ;)


Don't you love it "could or if"..If my Grandma had Balls she would have been my Grandpa..."IF"

Weather is forever changing...Ya don't like it now wait a few minutes, it is a sponge, a filter to sustain our lives...

My opinion is that in the late 1800's/early 1900's Industrial age when wood/coal was burned in homes heating, cooking, Industry Factories Power with Coal, No Scrubbers, Steel Mills, Raw Waste Dumped untreated, Mules/Horse's"Oxen used for Transportation, Farming, Dairy Cows,etc. elimination/farting all that summed up most likely put more Carbon and Methane in the Atmosphere than is induced in today.....

that's my opinion to chew on....

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Sep 9, 2014 12:45:31   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Beercat wrote:
So Frank,

Are you saying there hasn't been seasons of warming over the life of our earth?

I didn't remark as to say we aren't in the middle of a warming, nor have I said that the birds are not being affected, just that this isn't the first nor last time this will happen.


I'm saying that 97% of the worlds scientists agree that human activity is having an impact on climate change, yet there are people there who keep denying it.
If the shoe fits.

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Sep 9, 2014 12:50:14   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm saying that 97% of the worlds scientists agree that human activity is having an impact on climate change, yet there are people there who keep denying it.
If the shoe fits.


Oh please do give us a reference where 97% agree on your take. Oh, please do make it from a non-biased site, not some left wing extremist group.

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Sep 9, 2014 15:52:46   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Galaxy wrote:
Just a FYI since so many of us like to take pictures of birds or just plain like to watch them.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/09/08/climate-change-birds-audubon-society/15299231/


When you read the piece you see that these predictions are based on computer models. The government models are under scrutiny because of the global cooling for the last decade or so that these models did not predict. As far as loss of habitat that has nothing to do temperature. Much moree to do with needs of the human populace for food and recources, and other kinds of polution not temperature. Should we do everything possible to clean up the mess that we make? Of course. Here is an interesting fact about protecting birds. On the Cape many beaches were closed to humans so as to protect the nesting Piping Plover. But all that effort did not save the birds. The beaches are open because the piping plovers are gone. Was it climate change? NO it was foxes. They ate the eggs and the birds. Does this mean that the envirocrazies will picket the foxes?

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Sep 9, 2014 16:06:01   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Beercat wrote:
Oh please do give us a reference where 97% agree on your take. Oh, please do make it from a non-biased site, not some left wing extremist group.


Beer, Close your eyes and click your heals three times and you'll be back in Oz.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Try this one

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Sep 9, 2014 16:27:43   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Frank T wrote:
Beer, Close your eyes and click your heals three times and you'll be back in Oz.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Try this one


As I said, non-biased please. This is a NASA site which of course is politicalized.

Remember, almost every organization who supports the belief you state would go out of business if they said there was no global warming (man made). Go out of business, no job, it's self serving ........

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Sep 9, 2014 19:39:12   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Beer
I'm afraid there is no hope for you.
Perhaps you are content in destroying the planet so that your children or children's children will suffer the results.
I'm not.
I will forever fight to leave the world a better place.
There's an old Native American proverb. "You don't inherit the earth from your father, you borrow it from your children."
Treat it accordingly

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Sep 9, 2014 19:47:25   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Frank T wrote:
Beer
I'm afraid there is no hope for you.
Perhaps you are content in destroying the planet so that your children or children's children will suffer the results.
I'm not.
I will forever fight to leave the world a better place.
There's an old Native American proverb. "You don't inherit the earth from your father, you borrow it from your children."
Treat it accordingly


Aren't we painting with a broad brush ...........

My wife and I support this organization ;)

https://www.facebook.com/ProyectoAra

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Sep 9, 2014 20:54:55   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Frank T wrote:
Beer
I'm afraid there is no hope for you.
Perhaps you are content in destroying the planet so that your children or children's children will suffer the results.
I'm not.
I will forever fight to leave the world a better place.
There's an old Native American proverb. "You don't inherit the earth from your father, you borrow it from your children."
Treat it accordingly


It's amazing how much trash one liberal mind can collect.
And when you think about how many liberal minds there are ….
WOW !!! That's a lot of garbage polluting the world.

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Sep 9, 2014 21:56:24   #
Galaxy Loc: Northeastern Michigan
 
Sorry for Posting this link fellas. I didn't realize it would cause such a ruckus, I just thought it was worth reading. Lesson learned. Hopefully I won't make this mistake again! Have a nice evening. :oops:

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Sep 9, 2014 22:00:12   #
Beercat Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Galaxy wrote:
Sorry for Posting this link fellas. I didn't realize it would cause such a ruckus, I just thought it was worth reading. Lesson learned. Hopefully I won't make this mistake again! Have a nice evening. :oops:


Galaxy,

It's all good. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle when there is conflicting information. I always look for the common denominators from competing points of view. The common denominators is something you can take to the bank.

Have a good evening sir

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