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Sep 3, 2014 02:50:43   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmGWG7nL6M

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Sep 3, 2014 05:56:08   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
Racmanaz wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmGWG7nL6M


Interesting but he's wrong, the flood covered the whole earth not just a few thousand square km!

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Sep 3, 2014 05:59:08   #
Tina
 
It's a very interesting find. Please keep us informed and thanks for sharing.

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Sep 3, 2014 06:00:23   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
5000 years BC - the time of Noah's flood - the end of the ice age - that's not SO long ago - not long before King Tut and the pyramids. Yes - of course it was real - the facts have been embellished - have you ever played chinese whispers? Animals were saved - but they were animals local to Noah's world - the ones he would need to start afresh up the mountain. Did not include Elephants and Kangaroos etc from other "worlds" or should we say continents? The Americas - Australia etc were are far removed as the moon and the stars.

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Sep 3, 2014 06:11:36   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
"Ballard's track record speaks for itself"..... well, yes it does. I have followed his career for decades, and while he did indeed find the Titanic, he and Doc Edgerton looked for another myth - the Loch Ness Monster - without much success (they took a very blurry photo in murky water of what "could be a fin" ). So - it will be interesting if he finds the wreck of a hand-made ship large enough to carry two animals of every specie on earth. And were there floods in Biblical times? Yes, undoubtedly. And God has always been a convenient way of explaining things to/by those uninformed or uneducated. Did Sodom and Gomorrah get destroyed by God? Maybe, but maybe it is a story based on a natural phenomenon such as a volcano eruption or a meteor strike.

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Sep 3, 2014 06:12:42   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
saxkiwi wrote:
Interesting but he's wrong, the flood covered the whole earth not just a few thousand square km!


And so you are saying that Noah traveled to the Americas and Australia collecting animals?

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Sep 3, 2014 08:43:43   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
saxkiwi wrote:
Interesting but he's wrong, the flood covered the whole earth not just a few thousand square km!

Yes - just as global warming will soon flood parts of the "whole earth" again - but "the world" was only the Middle East in biblical times - and perhaps the Med area and a bit of the East.

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Sep 3, 2014 09:43:03   #
New York Steve Loc: St. Augustine, Florida
 
I've actually had the pleasure of working with Bob Ballard.

I was a second class Sonar Technician on board the USS Ortolan (ASR 22) in 1985. We were dispatched to join the Atlantis II in the North Atlantic during the Titanic expedition. Ballard was (and may still be) at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute at the time. The Atlantis II took several of our crew members on board for a few days. I was selected because I was a Sonarman.

It was an incredible experience. Ever see the National Geographic special on the Titanic after Ballard found it? We were able to view the raw footage from that, which was pretty damn cool.

To watch him work; to see how he approached an idea, was pretty fascinating. Ballard is a frighteningly intelligent man.

I can believe there was a flood and, if Ballard says there's evidence to support that it happened, I would likely defer to him. But I don't believe the story about the ark.

It's entertaining, though...

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Sep 4, 2014 07:06:29   #
jimlp1 Loc: New Mexico
 
You think that's crazy..? According to a recent article I read about Noah's time, Nephilim's (Giants) were upon the Earth, Bad/Indifferent Angles (sons of God) cast from haven, Like Micheal (Satan). These Son's of God looked down upon the Earth and saw Daughters of men, their beauty was impeccable, so they descended to Earth and took the Daughters of man to be their wives, about 200 of them. The daughters of Man bore siblings (of course) and they're referred to in the Bible, in several Chapters/Verses. God saw what had been done, and it lead to more reasons to flood the Earth, (sin). Yet upon the Nephilim's disagreement with God's Flooding of the Earth, God Allowed 10% of the Nephilim's to survive the flood, being Giants and moving to higher grounds. This article claims that these descendants of the Nephilim's and the Daughters of Man could very well be what we all now know today as Sasquatch or Big Foot.....!

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Sep 4, 2014 07:47:48   #
slyfoxdoc
 
A math expert could calculate how much water it would take to cover the entire earth... so where did all that water go when the waters receeded? The atmosphere could not hold that much water from evaporation. It could not soak into the ground in such a short time. What about all the salt-water fish that could not survive in oceans now too diluted with fresh water?

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Sep 4, 2014 07:56:19   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
slyfoxdoc wrote:
A math expert could calculate how much water it would take to cover the entire earth... so where did all that water go when the waters receeded? The atmosphere could not hold that much water from evaporation. It could not soak into the ground in such a short time. What about all the salt-water fish that could not survive in oceans now too diluted with fresh water?


God doesn't need to limit himself to the laws of physics. God works in mysterious ways, and we humans can not be expected to comprehend the inner mechanics of God's mysterious effects, or something to that effect...stop distracting my fairy tale story with all these scientific questions, the details are not important, just your blind belief, damnit!
/sarcasm off

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Sep 6, 2014 05:37:06   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
sb wrote:
And so you are saying that Noah traveled to the Americas and Australia collecting animals?


The earth was very different before the flood. There was hardly any of the water we call sea today. The flood happened after around 1600 years after creation so the animals God created were all in still in the area so to speak as there was hardly any great areas of water we have now. Noah did not collect animals, Gods power led them in two by two into the ark. There is tons of evidence of a world wide flood such as shells embedded in rock on the top of mountains, animals buried by sudden burial of water and mud and sediment which shows up today in fossilized things. The layers which evolutionists call the geologic column was done by the flood. Once the flood waters subsided all the sediment layers fell into place burying everything and you find that these fossilized animals trees etc are often laying through many layers which blows the theory of the layers building up over millions of years.

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Sep 6, 2014 05:54:30   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
slyfoxdoc wrote:
A math expert could calculate how much water it would take to cover the entire earth... so where did all that water go when the waters receeded? The atmosphere could not hold that much water from evaporation. It could not soak into the ground in such a short time. What about all the salt-water fish that could not survive in oceans now too diluted with fresh water?


Before the worldwide flood the seas were only small the water came from a canopy above the earth which watered the earth with a dew as there was no rain before the flood. The water also came from inside the earth. Scientists say that there is 3 times the amount of water in under ground oceans as there is in the oceans around the earth so there is plenty of room for where the water would go but the oceans we see today are the flood waters. If you piled all the ocean waters over all the earth covering land as well the water would be 2 miles deep covering even the highest mountain hence sea shells found embedded in the rock up there as well as other fossilized animals. You can gradually introduce a fresh water fish to salt water and this is what I believe happened. The water was fresh before but became salty from all the mineral deposits around the globe. {And there was and still is a lot}The fish and all living in the sea adapted to the salt water. It is proven that the reefs with all the life in them are only 4 and a half thousand years old and this makes sense when the flood happened around 1600 years after creation if you take a 6000 year old earth.

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Sep 6, 2014 05:58:50   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
Delderby wrote:
saxkiwi wrote:
Interesting but he's wrong, the flood covered the whole earth not just a few thousand square km!

Yes - just as global warming will soon flood parts of the "whole earth" again - but "the world" was only the Middle East in biblical times - and perhaps the Med area and a bit of the East.


sorry but evidence suggests otherwise as I have quoted above!

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Sep 7, 2014 17:48:07   #
saxkiwi Loc: New Zealand
 
Delderby wrote:
saxkiwi wrote:
Interesting but he's wrong, the flood covered the whole earth not just a few thousand square km!

Yes - just as global warming will soon flood parts of the "whole earth" again - but "the world" was only the Middle East in biblical times - and perhaps the Med area and a bit of the East.


Id also like to add with ref to the bible account of the rainbow when God said he would put his bow in the sky as a promise he wouldn't flood the earth again. Now we have had plenty of floods since then so why would God put his bow in the sky if it was just a flood for a certain area? As we see the bow all over the earth when it rains is a sure sign it was global. other wise surely you would just see the rainbow in one location it doesn't make sense to even bother with a rainbow if thats the case!

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