Black & White conversion: Is anyone using Greg Gorman's conversion method? I have CS3 Windows http://www.gormanphotography.com/Duotone.pdf I can get to step 15, create a new layer and...

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Feb 1, 2012 14:07:50 #

Bruce H Loc: Oregon Coast

Is anyone using Greg Gorman's conversion method? I have CS3 Windows

http://www.gormanphotography.com/Duotone.pdf

I can get to step 15, create a new layer and then step 16 says to hold the "options button" don't know what that is? however if I right click I can get a window that will alow me to "merge visable" it then flattens the immage and I can not change the blend mode, reduce the opacity or double click to see the layer properties?

Where did I go wrong?

Feb 1, 2012 15:12:24 #

photophly Loc: Old Bridge NJ

No ...but I am going to try it.

Feb 1, 2012 15:23:46 #

Bruce H Loc: Oregon Coast

Hope you do. I purchased a DVD on this subject and his foundation is this method. Haven't watched the DVD because my DVD drive is dead but did order another one. I am real interested in B&W and good way of converting.

Feb 1, 2012 18:02:22 #

normsImages Loc: Alabama for now

the option button is on a MAC - on a PC its the alt key

Feb 1, 2012 18:08:21 #

Bruce H Loc: Oregon Coast

Thanks, I figured it out. For me it is Control, Alt, Shift E, no wonder it isn't apparent...

Feb 2, 2012 06:53:38 #

rlaugh Loc: Michigan & Florida

I'll try it too

Feb 2, 2012 06:58:08 #

normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri

Ok i have not looked at the link yet but and as some of you know i am kinda new. But in CS5 what is wrong with converting the raw image to black and white and then using the sliders to correct the grayscale?

Feb 2, 2012 07:23:05 #

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

normanhall wrote:

No expert, but the idea is to adjust (not correct!) the grayscale for an individual color. Otherwise, you are adjusting the whole image.
For example: I have a photo of a white flower with green leaves. I may want to adjust the tonal range on the leaves without darkening or blowing out the detail in the white flower. If I convert and adjust the whole thing, I'm not getting what I want. In effect, I'm dodging and burning selective colors which I can't do, if they are already B&W.

Feb 2, 2012 07:35:33 #

normanhall Loc: Leslie Missouri

if you convert to black and white in the layers pallette you have control over these things. I have posted a screen shot to show you the slider. You can even tint to what ever color you want.

Feb 2, 2012 07:49:37 #

Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.

Scott Kelby has a good article on it. He recommends editing in color then convert tweek the white and shadows or black then minor adjustment.

Feb 2, 2012 08:43:26 #

photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga

normanhall wrote:

Nothing wrong with it, there are many ways to convert.

Usiing the RGB channels is a very good method and you might check out duotone or tritones for some great ways to tone after converting.

Feb 2, 2012 08:59:47 #

greymule Loc: Colorado

[quote=Bruce H]Is anyone using Greg Gorman's conversion method? I have CS3 Windows

http://www.gormanphotography.com/Duotone.pdf

I can get to step 15, create a new layer and then step 16 says to hold the "options button" don't know what that is? however if I right click I can get a window that will alow me to "merge visable" it then flattens the immage and I can not change the blend mode, reduce the opacity or double click to see the layer properties?

Here is another method-

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/CS3Color_To_BWSM.mov

Feb 2, 2012 12:07:17 #

Bruce H Loc: Oregon Coast

[quote=greymule]

Bruce H wrote:

Is anyone using Greg Gorman's conversion method? I... (show quote)

I have been doing what Russell Brown shows but was looking at what others are doing, trying to learn a bit.

I have figured it out how to do it, now I want to know why?

One of my pet peeves about adjustment is the answer "adjust to your liking" Liking and correct can be two different things. I am in the building trade, if I handed you a log and said cut it up and build a house. Cutting it up and cutting it up correctly are two different thing as is building the house. Lots of variations might work but only a few are correct.

Here is a more in-depth description.

http://www.blackandwhitedigital.com/Convert/luminosity/gorman.html

Feb 2, 2012 21:03:13 #

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

normanhall wrote:

if you convert to black and white in the layers pallette you have control over these things. I have posted a screen shot to show you the slider. You can even tint to what ever color you want.

Thanks. Like I posted, I'm no expert. I suspect this is one of those times when there is more than one way to get to where you want to go. The tutorial I saw, allowed one to see the changes as they were made-- perhaps your way does the same. Viva la difference!

Feb 2, 2012 21:07:38 #

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

[quote=Bruce H]

greymule wrote:

quote=Bruce H Is anyone using Greg Gorman's conve... (show quote)

I suspect the building trade and photography are vastly different trades: some allow artistic license, others don't. I think this is a case of individual preference. I used to do corporate training in a work environment with "shades of gray". Some of those I trained had a very difficult time when there was no "correct" answer.

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