The "Cloud" is a Huge Part of Microsoft's Business
Jul 23, 2014 07:30:28 #
A couple of years ago, if you said that Microsoft's cloud service would bring in $4,400,000 over the course of a year, people would laugh at you. Now it's the truth. That's double what it was last year. This includes cloud services for business, like Office, Azure, and Dynamics.
Jul 23, 2014 08:14:28 #
Everything will be 'cloud based' eventually. Days of buying programs are coming to an end. Along with the cloud based programs/apps whatever, come the cloud based subscriptions.
Jul 23, 2014 08:31:32 #
Michael Hartley wrote:
Everything will be 'cloud based' eventually. Days of buying programs are coming to an end. Along with the cloud based programs/apps whatever, come the cloud based subscriptions.
You're probably right. then we'll be able to use our programs from any computer, rather than being limited by the license to one or two. Remember when all programs came in nice boxes, on discs, with manuals?
Jul 23, 2014 09:09:12 #
Michael Hartley wrote:
Everything will be 'cloud based' eventually. Days of buying programs are coming to an end. Along with the cloud based programs/apps whatever, come the cloud based subscriptions.
It depends on the software, with open source software you will always be able to install locally or remotely. although cloud is an option
http://blog.rollapp.com/2013/11/libreoffice-cloud.html for example.
The benefit to the cloud providers is a steady income of rent but its also an opportunity for intelligence gathering from the likes of the nsa.
Privacy is important and you don't have to be doing anything wrong to demand it.
Our computers these days are very powerful and capable of doing 99% of what we throw at them.
Think about this for a moment, we used to run office 97 in 8 Megabytes of Ram
Now we think 1000 Megabytes (1 GB) is too little ram to do anything with.
Yet we are still producing the same kind of documents we were 15 years ago.
Jul 23, 2014 09:16:11 #
blackest wrote:
It depends on the software, with open source softw... (show quote)
Remember the Apple IIe with 64KB of memory?
Jul 23, 2014 09:45:56 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Remember the Apple IIe with 64KB of memory?
I remember the zx81 with 1KB :)
Jul 23, 2014 09:54:09 #
The 'cloud' was 'invented' and first mentioned by Novell, a software network company based in Provost Utah in 1997. It was and still is about managing data and local area network (LAN) infrastructure (software side) off site. Their initial idea was within a company network but on remote servers (Wide LAN WLAN).
Since the concept took off and has been popularized. Novell who was a network key player is now relegated to a minor player invisible to many but network professionals. Not a bad thing in my opinion as they killed Dr DOS because it was too advanced for the times...
The company was pushing the LAN IPX standard but lost when MS pushed IP4 making internet addressing a standard for both LAN and WLAN.
Now IP4 is slowly mutating to IP6 and the cloud refers to remote storage w/o any real safety net over access.
Photo services like fliker are cloud based not only because they are on line but because their data server (photo storage) is not managed by them but a different company. Flicker is WEB front, same as all the others.
What is the advantage? By not storing the images on their own server they limit the bandwidth, maintenance cost. Also their web site response if faster because the pages are 'lighter. The heavy lifting is done by cloud based data servers.
UHH is likely using Adobe's cloud services but I have no proof of that.
Since the concept took off and has been popularized. Novell who was a network key player is now relegated to a minor player invisible to many but network professionals. Not a bad thing in my opinion as they killed Dr DOS because it was too advanced for the times...
The company was pushing the LAN IPX standard but lost when MS pushed IP4 making internet addressing a standard for both LAN and WLAN.
Now IP4 is slowly mutating to IP6 and the cloud refers to remote storage w/o any real safety net over access.
Photo services like fliker are cloud based not only because they are on line but because their data server (photo storage) is not managed by them but a different company. Flicker is WEB front, same as all the others.
What is the advantage? By not storing the images on their own server they limit the bandwidth, maintenance cost. Also their web site response if faster because the pages are 'lighter. The heavy lifting is done by cloud based data servers.
UHH is likely using Adobe's cloud services but I have no proof of that.
Jul 23, 2014 09:57:07 #
Rongnongno wrote:
What is the advantage? By not storing the images on their own server they limit the bandwidth, maintenance cost. Also their web site response if faster because the pages are 'lighter. The heavy lifting is done by cloud based data servers.
I can see the advantage of having all programs in the cloud, as that would save lots of local storage space.
Jul 23, 2014 10:08:17 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can see the advantage of having all programs in the cloud, as that would save lots of local storage space.
It is not program but data.
Program still reside locally onto your HDD but to work they will use a 'remote key' to validate their access. Adobe is not the only using this. Also the cloud allows the access to the program settings (interface customization and so on) from anywhere.
This means that one can install cloud based in as many computers as you want but only one computer can use it at anyone time. Something poorly explained to the 'casual' computer user. This is similar to the 'roaming profiles' used in MS network. When you log onto a computer you will find your settings and after a while your own software (it needs to be uploaded if not available). That process is also referred to as 'pull' when a user demands a certain type of data vs push when the computer gets updates or even software w/o user intervention.
Personally I have Adobe's suite installed in two computers at home, one in Tennessee, one in Virginia and one in Michigan. I had no problem installing and using them. I do not need to log off. I just log in and it logs off the other PC automatically. I have the same settings through 'synch'.
Jul 23, 2014 10:11:09 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can see the advantage of having all programs in the cloud, as that would save lots of local storage space.
It's not really the programs that take up the space. First lump is operating system and related files then there is another lump which is your program files and then there is the huge chunk which is your data.
Program files are a drop in the bucket really.
The main advantage of cloud services is the lack of maintenance. Much like hiring a car.
Which makes me wonder why do we buy cars instead of renting or leasing them? I would imagine the arguments are fairly similar
Jul 23, 2014 10:14:38 #
blackest wrote:
Renting is similar (open ended you pay for what you use depending on contract), leasing is different (restricted). You lease a car for a period of time BUT you are limited in the number of miles you can drive it, after that you pay more... A model ISP companies like comcast are pushing. Use streaming and expect your bill to be padded after you use your allotted 'volume' per month....Which makes me wonder why do we buy cars instead of renting or leasing them? I would imagine the arguments are fairly similar
Jul 23, 2014 10:37:09 #
Rongnongno wrote:
It is not program but data.
MS is hosting business applications, Like Office, Azure, and Dynamics in their cloud. Their money is coming more from businesses using MS programs than people storing pictures or data.
I didn't supply the link with my original post.
http://www.citeworld.com/article/2456966/business-money/microsofts-cloud-business-is-on-fire.html
Jul 23, 2014 10:57:19 #
They host the data, not the application. Read carefully. Office 365 description from MS site:
The 'app' since this is what we call software now, resides locally but the data is remote.
MS Link
Microsoft wrote:
You are and your business are on the move. That means you need to be able to work from anywhere, across your devices, and have a consistent and fast experience. That freedom is what you get with Office 365. Whether youre at your desktop or on your tablet or phone, you can get to your documents, email and calendars, shared files, and online meetings. And wherever you access it, its always your Office, so your files are up to date and your recent documents just a click away.
The 'app' since this is what we call software now, resides locally but the data is remote.
Microsoft wrote:
Let Office 365 take care of IT, so you can spend your time moving your business ahead. Install Office quickly and set up users with step-by-step guidance.
MS Link
Jul 23, 2014 11:24:01 #
jerryc41 wrote:
You're probably right. then we'll be able to use our programs from any computer, rather than being limited by the license to one or two. Remember when all programs came in nice boxes, on discs, with manuals?
Yeah..and I hated it...
Need to reinstall?
What happened to that darn disk!
Where's the sleeve with the password on it????
No thank you.
Jul 23, 2014 11:30:50 #
rpavich wrote:
Yeah..and I hated it...
Need to reinstall?
What happened to that darn disk!
Where's the sleeve with the password on it????
No thank you.
Need to reinstall?
What happened to that darn disk!
Where's the sleeve with the password on it????
No thank you.
Remember before CDs, when you might get a dozen floppies that had to be loaded one after the other?
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