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Jul 13, 2014 18:26:28   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
I wanted to "Shoot the Moon" last night so in preparation, I did a bit of reading and took some shots around the house using Live View and manual settings. I was satisfied with the results.

Went out to a nature park last night to get away from the ambient city lights, set up on a tripod, full manual and used a cable release and F10, 1/125, ISO 100, Spot Focus. The problem I had was that was when I tried to focus, all I could see was a bright light (similar to looking at the bright end of a flash light in a dark room) with no indication of what the moon's surface was like and consequently, I could not focus for the shot. I made at least one error in that I did not lock the ISO to 100 with my menu settings and consequently saw in the finder after exiting Live View, that the camera was trying to use 1600. Would that cause the problem? After a bit and a lot of bugs, I got frustrated, went to Aperture mode and got a couple of shots.

I cannot upload any of these attempts since I did not actually take any shots via live view.

If anyone is interested, I used a shirt that my wife gave me a few weeks ago that contained bug repellent that is effective against ticks as well as the other critters. It really worked well.

Thanks, Bill

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Jul 13, 2014 18:32:29   #
Haydon
 
You probably would have better luck with live view in this case. Interested in the shirt you wore.

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Jul 13, 2014 18:46:25   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
Haydon wrote:
You probably would have better luck with live view in this case. Interested in the shirt you wore.


Link to the shirt. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76474?feat=502683-GN2&page=men-s-no-fly-zone-shirt. I bought I big enough to pull the collar over the back of my head when the critters got serious.

Guess I wasn't clear, I had trouble with LV, not with Aperture.

Bill

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Jul 13, 2014 19:22:04   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....



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Jul 13, 2014 19:41:25   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.


Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....
Had the identical problem last night. In the D700... (show quote)


Sounds exactly like what I experienced last night. I'll try your suggestion but it looks like I'll be having cloud problems; last night was cloudless.

Bill

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Jul 13, 2014 23:34:13   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
 

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....


On what planet?????

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Jul 13, 2014 23:43:52   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
MT Shooter wrote:
On what planet?????


Who cares as long as you get the shot ;-)

Bill

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Jul 14, 2014 02:28:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....
Had the identical problem last night. In the D700... (show quote)

August 10th in two weeks? Where have I been?

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Jul 14, 2014 08:25:06   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Shooting the moon use the sunny eleven rule.

rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....
Had the identical problem last night. In the D700... (show quote)

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Jul 14, 2014 10:13:11   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....
Had the identical problem last night. In the D700... (show quote)


The next full moon is not in two weeks in Missouri. It is around August 11th. Posted this before I read Mogul's post.

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Jul 14, 2014 10:31:23   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Shooting the moon use the sunny eleven rule.


"Sunny eleven" rule?
Maybe you can explain that one, especially to us old film shooters that used the "Sunny Sixteen" rule for decades?

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Jul 14, 2014 10:38:05   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
You are right "Sunny Sixteen" rule (that is what happens to us old people who should be in nursing homes), my mistake. But most people who have not done astronomy don't realize that the moon can be as bright as the sun.

MT Shooter wrote:
"Sunny eleven" rule?
Maybe you can explain that one, especially to us old film shooters that used the "Sunny Sixteen" rule for decades?

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Jul 14, 2014 11:50:19   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Had the identical problem last night. In the D7000's shooting menu, go to ISO Sensitivity Settings where you will find Auto ISO on/off. The camera, even though I had selected ISO 200, was attempting to expose at ISO 1600, which it felt was necessary for a correct exposure given the light levels the meter was seeing. Once I disabled Auto ISO, I was able to get some shots. You can see the wispy clouds that frustrated my efforts last night below the blown out moon.

And, with my eyesight, I found Live View was more applicable in aiming the camera, not focusing. I put the Tamron 70 - 300 into manual focus mode and was able to get what I wanted.

Oh well, its full again in 2 weeks....
Had the identical problem last night. In the D700... (show quote)


Try again! That shot is way over exposed, no detail. As has been pointed out on other posts, go out and shoot a non full moon because there will be more details. Another thing that may help too is to manually focus to get close and if your lens has a limit switch for the distance that it will AF make sure that it is on full. Last resort, go to the manual mode and look at the meter in your view finder and expose by the meter. Good luck and would like to see your next attempt!

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Jul 14, 2014 17:39:42   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Caysnowman wrote:
I wanted to "Shoot the Moon" last night so in preparation, I did a bit of reading and took some shots around the house using Live View and manual settings. I was satisfied with the results.

Went out to a nature park last night to get away from the ambient city lights, set up on a tripod, full manual and used a cable release and F10, 1/125, ISO 100, Spot Focus. The problem I had was that was when I tried to focus, all I could see was a bright light (similar to looking at the bright end of a flash light in a dark room) with no indication of what the moon's surface was like and consequently, I could not focus for the shot. I made at least one error in that I did not lock the ISO to 100 with my menu settings and consequently saw in the finder after exiting Live View, that the camera was trying to use 1600. Would that cause the problem? After a bit and a lot of bugs, I got frustrated, went to Aperture mode and got a couple of shots.

I cannot upload any of these attempts since I did not actually take any shots via live view.

If anyone is interested, I used a shirt that my wife gave me a few weeks ago that contained bug repellent that is effective against ticks as well as the other critters. It really worked well.

Thanks, Bill
I wanted to "Shoot the Moon" last night ... (show quote)

Yes, Live View is the way to go to do this (using manual focus and10x or more magnification), but you're correct, using a too high ISO will give you a washed out image on the screen and you risk to damage your sensor along the way!

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Jul 14, 2014 20:24:11   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
speters wrote:
Yes, Live View is the way to go to do this (using manual focus and10x or more magnification), but you're correct, using a too high ISO will give you a washed out image on the screen and you risk to damage your sensor along the way!


Using a high ISO does not necessarily mean a washed out moon. It depends on all your settings. Two nights ago I shot the moon and was using the camera on extreme automation ------ by that I mean auto focus, auto exposure, and auto ISO. I didn't realize the camera set the ISO at 4000 until after the fact. I have been fooling around with auto ISO for a week or so to see if there is any benefit to using it. So far, it sets a higher ISO than I would on my on and though the results aren't too bad, I don't think I like it for the most part. Here is a shot that came from the group I took: ISO 4000, shutter 1/4000, aperture f8.



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