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Jul 8, 2014 09:58:37   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 lens. A big investment. I have been a Nikon owner for as long as I can remember. This is not a Nikon vs Canon etc post. The improvements are OK on 810 and the 610 has had problems.But Nikon is not following what a lot of people want to do today. Better video capability like the Canon Mark III. Higher bit rates, moire? they just got 60p etc. I realize a lot of talented photographers on this site shoot nature and environments and enjoy seeing some of their work. But today's camera companies are offering smaller, high-quality, flexible gear that can do so many things. The GH4 would be a good example. I am also concerned how the value of Nikon's camera's and good lens seems to be slipping. I have always gotten good resale or trade on my Nikon gear. So what to do. Keep marching down the Sony line which I am doing? Buy a Red Scarlett and extract stills?
The GH2 with the Magic Lantern hack became the rage. Camera's are now about firmware. What we see is tricked up.
And who is the best magician. I am ready for some shoes
flying towards me now.

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Jul 8, 2014 10:05:24   #
twindad Loc: SW Michigan, frolicking in the snow.
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 lens. A big investment. I have been a Nikon owner for as long as I can remember. This is not a Nikon vs Canon etc post. The improvements are OK on 810 and the 610 has had problems.But Nikon is not following what a lot of people want to do today. Better video capability like the Canon Mark III. Higher bit rates, moire? they just got 60p etc. I realize a lot of talented photographers on this site shoot nature and environments and enjoy seeing some of their work. But today's camera companies are offering smaller, high-quality, flexible gear that can do so many things. The GH4 would be a good example. I am also concerned how the value of Nikon's camera's and good lens seems to be slipping. I have always gotten good resale or trade on my Nikon gear. So what to do. Keep marching down the Sony line which I am doing? Buy a Red Scarlett and extract stills?
The GH2 with the Magic Lantern hack became the rage. Camera's are now about firmware. What we see is tricked up.
And who is the best magician. I am ready for some shoes
flying towards me now.
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 len... (show quote)


I've read this three times now, and I still can't figure out if this is a question or a comment.

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Jul 8, 2014 10:26:46   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
twindad wrote:
I've read this three times now, and I still can't figure out if this is a question or a comment.


The title is the question...

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Jul 8, 2014 10:39:07   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 lens. A big investment. I have been a Nikon owner for as long as I can remember. This is not a Nikon vs Canon etc post. The improvements are OK on 810 and the 610 has had problems.But Nikon is not following what a lot of people want to do today. Better video capability like the Canon Mark III. Higher bit rates, moire? they just got 60p etc. I realize a lot of talented photographers on this site shoot nature and environments and enjoy seeing some of their work. But today's camera companies are offering smaller, high-quality, flexible gear that can do so many things. The GH4 would be a good example. I am also concerned how the value of Nikon's camera's and good lens seems to be slipping. I have always gotten good resale or trade on my Nikon gear. So what to do. Keep marching down the Sony line which I am doing? Buy a Red Scarlett and extract stills?
The GH2 with the Magic Lantern hack became the rage. Camera's are now about firmware. What we see is tricked up.
And who is the best magician. I am ready for some shoes
flying towards me now.
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 len... (show quote)

You should not buy one, because that is not what you are interested in. I should not buy one, because the improvements over the D800 will not significantly improve my photography. But it is a good choice for someone who has an APS-C camera like a D5100, and wants a camera that will take the best pictures they can produce in an interchangeable lens, "35mm" or smaller size.

You are right with "what a lot of people want to do today," but this isn't a camera for most people, as it is big, heavy, and expensive. Most people should get an APS-C or m4/3 camera, and Nikon is finally getting its act together with the Nikon 1 system, an even smaller size (1"/CX).

I disagree that everything is about things which are "tricked up", and that it's all "about firmware". Many still think it is about good glass, good sensor, good technique, and great art. :-)

The D610 did not have problems, that was the D600, which is why the D610 was released a year later.

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Jul 8, 2014 10:44:26   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Maybe that's why so many photographers have switched to Canon 5DMk3,1D cameras? Now I'll bet I will catch flack for saying this.

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Jul 8, 2014 10:47:02   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
.... A big investment. ....


because the shutter mirror has less noise/vibration

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Jul 8, 2014 10:47:19   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
RichardSM wrote:
Maybe that's why so many photographers have switched to Canon 5DMk3,1D cameras? Now I'll bet I will catch flack for saying this.

Comedy is always welcome! :lol:

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Jul 8, 2014 11:03:06   #
lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
 
amehta wrote:
Comedy is always welcome! :lol:


Yes, but after a while it just becomes tedius, redundant and absurd. I could go on and on, but it will become more tedius, redundant and absurd.

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Jul 8, 2014 11:06:16   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
lightchime wrote:
Yes, but after a while it just becomes tedius, redundant and absurd. I could go on and on, but it will become more tedius, redundant and absurd.

Yes, but it at least had the novelty of not being from the usual ssuspect. ;-)

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Jul 8, 2014 11:06:58   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Thank you Amehta a very insightful reply. I did mean the D600.

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Jul 8, 2014 11:13:04   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
Thank you Amehta a very insightful reply. I did mean the D600.

Yes, the D600 had a systematic problem, and it took too long for Nikon to address that. The question is whether they will act differently in the future under similar circumstances.

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Jul 8, 2014 11:18:14   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 lens. A big investment. I have been a Nikon owner for as long as I can remember. This is not a Nikon vs Canon etc post. The improvements are OK on 810 and the 610 has had problems.But Nikon is not following what a lot of people want to do today. Better video capability like the Canon Mark III. Higher bit rates, moire? they just got 60p etc. I realize a lot of talented photographers on this site shoot nature and environments and enjoy seeing some of their work. But today's camera companies are offering smaller, high-quality, flexible gear that can do so many things. The GH4 would be a good example. I am also concerned how the value of Nikon's camera's and good lens seems to be slipping. I have always gotten good resale or trade on my Nikon gear. So what to do. Keep marching down the Sony line which I am doing? Buy a Red Scarlett and extract stills?
The GH2 with the Magic Lantern hack became the rage. Camera's are now about firmware. What we see is tricked up.
And who is the best magician. I am ready for some shoes
flying towards me now.
I have had 2 Nikon D800's still own one. And 5 len... (show quote)


If you currently own a D800/E there probably is little reason to upgrade to a D810.

Of course if you are in the market for another D800 and want the latest and greatest its a no brainer providing the cost isn't a consideration. No doubt there will be bargains available on used current models when it hits the shelf.

For me their isn't enough of an improvement to trade up from my D800E.

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Jul 8, 2014 11:24:56   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
One should purchase the 810 simply because the 800 and 800e have reached their production line death. To 'upgrade' from the 800 to the 810? You need to be nuts or have too much $$$ and suffering from the acquisition syndrome.

As to the video? Honestly? BUY A VIDEO CAMERA!

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Jul 8, 2014 11:48:39   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Rongnongno wrote:
One should purchase the 810 simply because the 800 and 800e have reached their production line death. To 'upgrade' from the 800 to the 810? You need to be nuts or have too much $$$ and suffering from the acquisition syndrome.

As to the video? Honestly? BUY A VIDEO CAMERA!


Normally I don't agree with Rongnongno
But you do seem to make sense on this matter I am impressed.

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Jul 8, 2014 11:58:27   #
Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
Why should I or anyone buy the new Nikon 810?


Because they are looking for what the D800 offers? And with that they also want the latest version of the body. I see it as incremental to fix issues with the D800. You have the D800. What would you get today, if you did not already have that body?

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