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Jul 1, 2014 13:25:43   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends

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Jul 1, 2014 13:30:00   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends

Perhaps what you really want is a high-end bridge camera. Two options are
* Sony DSC-RX10, $1300
* Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ1000, $900, available in August
which both have larger sensors than most bridge cameras, almost the same size as the micro 4/3 sensors.

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Jul 1, 2014 13:42:47   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends
If you can wait and are adventurous I would suggest to wait and purchase the Lytro camera in August. Cost is about 1,500.00 pre order. The technology is new so it will take sometime to make it main stream...

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Jul 1, 2014 13:53:16   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends


So you want the best optics, small size, low weight, one do it all super zoom lens and at a "reasonable" price? You don't indicate a price range, that would be helpful. Having said that, there is no fee lunch. You may have to make compromises depending on what's most important to you. Perhaps with the zoom range, or the sensor size, or lens speed, or the availability of a true view finder, or...

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Jul 1, 2014 13:57:39   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
mwsilvers wrote:
So you want the best optics, small size, low weight, one do it all super zoom lens and at a "reasonable" price? You don't indicate a price range, that would be helpful. Having said that, there is no fee lunch. You may have to make compromises depending on what's most important to you.


Are you saying I want too much lol.... Yeah I know but I would like to see what I can get within these criterias. I know I can't have it all but let's see what I an get.

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Jul 1, 2014 14:00:39   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
mwsilvers wrote:
So you want the best optics, small size, low weight, one do it all super zoom lens and at a "reasonable" price? You don't indicate a price range, that would be helpful. Having said that, there is no fee lunch. You may have to make compromises depending on what's most important to you. Perhaps with the zoom range, or the sensor size, or lens speed, or the availability of a true view finder, or...

I don't think "small size, low weight" were specifically in the requirements, not changing lenses was. If mirrorless cameras like the Olympus OM-D E-M10 were considered, that does give a sense of a the budget at the low end. I don't think this search is over-constrained.

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Jul 1, 2014 14:19:31   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends


Just because a camera can take multiple lenses doesn't mean you have to have multiple lenses. You can get a Nikon D90 with an 18-105mm lens for about $1000 and a Nikon D7100 with an 18-140mm lens for about $1400. I'm sure Canon has equivalent bodies and lenses. And other camera brands probably do too. The 18-105mm lens gives a range from wide angle to short telephoto. The 18-140mm gives wide angle to mid telephoto.

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Jul 1, 2014 21:54:51   #
mechengvic Loc: SoCalo
 
Rongnongno wrote:
If you can wait and are adventurous I would suggest to wait and purchase the Lytro camera in August. Cost is about 1,500.00 pre order. The technology is new so it will take sometime to make it main stream...


Will wonders never cease?

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Jul 1, 2014 22:08:41   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Fujifilm X-E2 with 18-55mm "kit" lens. The lens has outstanding optics. This combo has become my go-to walkaround lens of late.
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends

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Jul 1, 2014 22:23:39   #
mechengvic Loc: SoCalo
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends


The "best" mirrorless camera currently is probably the just released Sony a7s, it's 2500.00$ without a lens. A lens to do it justice will cost @2000.00$. So the "best" mirrorless one lens setup is roughly 4500.00$

But the a7s is geared towards 4k video work, so it's sensor, while being the best low light full frame sensor in the world, is only 12mp. And while very sharp at normal viewing sizes, will suffer pixel peeper failure close up.

The Sony a7r is the sharpest mirrorless camera available, with 36mp of resolution. It costs 2300.00$, so with that same 2000.00$ lens, you have the mirrorless sharpness king at 4300.00$. But if you like shooting wide angle, you will suffer severe vignetting.

IF... you want the "best all around" mirrorless setup, you'll be hard pressed to beat the Olympus OMD line of cameras' combination of size, image quality, build quality, features, price. They do everything well, and the 12-40 f2.8 pro lens is one of the best "one lens" options you will find. For @ half the price of the Sonys.

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Jul 1, 2014 22:36:27   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package.

You want one of those large sensor bridge cameras. Ignore everyone who steers you toward a big DSLR.
If you want an even larger sensor, try a micro four thirds camera with a 14-140 or 14-150 lens - larger sensor, 10x zoom, and you never have to remove the lens.

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Jul 1, 2014 22:59:18   #
mechengvic Loc: SoCalo
 
Hers am interesting article comparing the Sony a7r with the Olympus OMD em1

http://www.eoshd.com/content/11858/battle-mirrorless-monsters-sony-a7r-vs-olympus-om-d-e-m1

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Jul 1, 2014 23:08:49   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
mechengvic wrote:
Hers am interesting article comparing the Sony a7r with the Olympus OMD em1

http://www.eoshd.com/content/11858/battle-mirrorless-monsters-sony-a7r-vs-olympus-om-d-e-m1


Thank you I'll check it out.

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Jul 2, 2014 05:27:41   #
creativ simon Loc: Coulsdon, South London
 
Need to know what you photograph before we can recommend a lens

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Jul 2, 2014 05:39:59   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
tita1948 wrote:
I want a mirrorless camera but I don't want to carry around lenses. I want it all in one package. Every time I read about these mirrorless cameras they all talk about different lenses you can buy.

I also want to buy the best and sharpest one. Yes $$$ is important but not only factor.

I've looked at so many and read so many reviews that my head is swimming. I help help.

Thank friends


A Panasonic FZ1000 seems like it would fit the bill for you. A very versatile camera all things considered.

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