Court decision on Hobby Lobby case (Page 2): Blaaah, Blaaah, Blaaah... What a bubble you live in.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

dljen wrote:

I knew it'd come down this way. That Supreme Court is horrible. Everything is for the corporations no matter how hypocritical they may be.

Blaaah, Blaaah, Blaaah... What a bubble you live in.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

SpeedyWilson wrote:

The supreme Court has ruled 5-4 mostly in favor of Hobby Lobby's case seeking exemption from Obamacare mandate of paying for certain abortive contraception medications.

I agree with their decision, and I think it's a step in the right direction of liberty and freedom.

What are your thoughts about this decision?

Now we have to see how the courts are flooded with all sorts of "other" suites based on religion.

This may become a case of.....be careful what you ask for.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

There's an old saying, It ain't over till it's over.
If you think that NARAL is going to take this lying down, you've got another think coming.
I'm sure Jefferson is spinning in his grave right now at the loss of an individual's rights over a corporation.
Sad, sad day in America.
Think I'll right a check for NARAL

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

BasqueLady wrote:

I do not agree is a devastating decision against women. It also gives corporation more power against the people.

How in the world is this a devastating decision for women, would you care to explain this statement of yours?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Frank T wrote:

There's an old saying, It ain't over till it's over.
If you think that NARAL is going to take this lying down, you've got another think coming.
I'm sure Jefferson is spinning in his grave right now at the loss of an individual's rights over a corporation.
Sad, sad day in America.
Think I'll right a check for NARAL

Shoot!, don't stop there, give them your house, give them your camera, give them everything you own and go live on the streets Frank! You will sleep better at night knowing that you are fighting to strip the constitutional rights away from religious folks so that women won't have to pay 5 bucks for morning after pill....

Libs are batshit crazy.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

SpeedyWilson wrote:

The supreme Court has ruled 5-4 mostly in favor of Hobby Lobby's case seeking exemption from Obamacare mandate of paying for certain abortive contraception medications.

I agree with their decision, and I think it's a step in the right direction of liberty and freedom.

What are your thoughts about this decision?

I think the Court was very empathetic to their convictions. (No pun intended.)

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Frank T wrote:

There's an old saying, It ain't over till it's over.
If you think that NARAL is going to take this lying down, you've got another think coming.
I'm sure Jefferson is spinning in his grave right now at the loss of an individual's rights over a corporation.
Sad, sad day in America.
Think I'll right a check for NARAL

So you are saying that because Hobby Lobby can't be forced by law to pay for the murder of babies, individual rights have been lost?
Sorry, I don't get it.

BasqueLady Loc: Woodburn OR

When women make decisions about their reproductive health care, who should be involved? The woman and her doctor. Who should not be involved? Employers and politicians. Thats something most Americans understand yet thats not how a majority of Supreme Court justices see it.Corporations should not be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. Its as simple as that.

dljen Loc: Central PA

BasqueLady wrote:

When women make decisions about their reproductive health care, who should be involved? The woman and her doctor. Who should not be involved? Employers and politicians. Thats something most Americans understand yet thats not how a majority of Supreme Court justices see it.Corporations should not be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. Its as simple as that.

Exactly, BasqueLady.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

BasqueLady wrote:

When women make decisions about their reproductive health care, who should be involved? The woman and her doctor. Who should not be involved? Employers and politicians. Thats something most Americans understand yet thats not how a majority of Supreme Court justices see it.Corporations should not be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. Its as simple as that.

I don't see anyone stopping them, the court simply ruled that a Christian company can't be forced to pay for the murder of infants, nothing stopping a mother from paying for the murder herself.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

BasqueLady wrote:

When women make decisions about their reproductive health care, who should be involved? The woman and her doctor. Who should not be involved? Employers and politicians. Thats something most Americans understand yet thats not how a majority of Supreme Court justices see it.Corporations should not be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. Its as simple as that.

You have forgotten to include the bankroller in who should be involved.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

BasqueLady wrote:

When women make decisions about their reproductive health care, who should be involved? The woman and her doctor. Who should not be involved? Employers and politicians. Thats something most Americans understand yet thats not how a majority of Supreme Court justices see it.Corporations should not be able to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. Its as simple as that.

Corporations are not imposing their beliefs on women, you have it all backwards, it was a progressive piece of legislation that imposed liberal beliefs and a sense of social justice on business owners and the courts have stepped to the plate to reaffirm our constitutional right to practice our religious beliefs. Please tell me where it is in the constitution that says that an employer must provide for your reproductive care? Or if you can't do that please tell me where it is in the constitution that informs you that your birth control is a right granted to you under our constitution? If you can't do that please show me where it is in the constitution that says that because a man enters into business that he gives up his protections under our Bill of Rights?

Hmmmm I will patiently await your response.... if you have any questions for me I would suggest that you first read the first amendment of our constitution, that is what I will use to address my side of the argument.

NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian

dljen wrote:

Exactly, BasqueLady.

If nations that were founded on Christian ideals have to downplay Christmas just to appease muslims, why can't Hobby Lobby have some empathy towards their religious belief?

BasqueLady Loc: Woodburn OR

In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), the Court drew on Founding Father Thomas Jefferson's correspondence to call for "a wall of separation between church and State". So how could Hobby Lobby be allowed to discriminate to their women employees using their religious beliefs.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

dljen wrote:

Individuals are falling by the wayside. The Supreme Court is saying that we don't care about the individual, the corporation is more important. Again, the Republican members standing up for big business and the Democratic members (progressive) thinking of the person.

Remember, this was a very narrow decision about only certain birth control methods. It only exempts Hobby Lobby and the other company from paying for those methods which induce abortions of viable embryos. It doesn't mean they're exempt from paying for other forms of birth control. People are getting all bent out of shape because they don't understand the issue and the suit. I'm bent out of shape because the vote was 5-4.