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Jun 30, 2014 10:13:56   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Bad news for Environment. The antarctic temperature has been dropping for the past 40 years.

The sea ice coverage around Antarctica over the weekend marked a record high, with the ice surrounding the continent measuring at 2.07 million square kilometers, according to an environmentalist and author who says the ice there has actually been increasing since 1979 despite continued warnings of global warming.

The new record was posted for the first time by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign’s online record, The Cryosphere Today, early Sunday morning.

It's not apparent if the record actually occurred on Friday or Saturday, says Harold Ambler on his blog, Talking About the Weather.

"The previous record anomaly for Southern Hemisphere sea ice area was 1.840 million square kilometers and occurred on December 20, 2007," said Ambler. Meanwhile, he pointed out, global sea ice area on Sunday was standing at 0.991 million square kilometers above average, a figure he arrived at by adding anomalies for the North and South hemispheres.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/antarctic-sea-ice-growing/2014/06/29/id/579853#ixzz368DgGqSQ

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Jun 30, 2014 10:22:51   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
CatMarley wrote:
Bad news for Environment. The antarctic temperature has been dropping for the past 40 years.

The sea ice coverage around Antarctica over the weekend marked a record high, with the ice surrounding the continent measuring at 2.07 million square kilometers, according to an environmentalist and author who says the ice there has actually been increasing since 1979 despite continued warnings of global warming.

The new record was posted for the first time by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign’s online record, The Cryosphere Today, early Sunday morning.

It's not apparent if the record actually occurred on Friday or Saturday, says Harold Ambler on his blog, Talking About the Weather.

"The previous record anomaly for Southern Hemisphere sea ice area was 1.840 million square kilometers and occurred on December 20, 2007," said Ambler. Meanwhile, he pointed out, global sea ice area on Sunday was standing at 0.991 million square kilometers above average, a figure he arrived at by adding anomalies for the North and South hemispheres.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/antarctic-sea-ice-growing/2014/06/29/id/579853#ixzz368DgGqSQ
Bad news for Environment. The antarctic temperatu... (show quote)

Thanks, Cat! Al Gore's next piece of fiction will be about negative global warming. It will be called "An Inconvenient Lie."
:D

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Jun 30, 2014 10:24:35   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
So we are faced with two scenarios. One, we will fry, and the other, we will burn. And all this tells me we absolutely have NO clue what is going to happen. So let's just brighten the corner where we are, shall we? I would imagine that the ancients didn't have a clue either, but somehow survived the flood and ice age.

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Jun 30, 2014 10:29:32   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
Why is this bad news for the environment? One pole loses ice, one gains. Scientists have moved away from the term "Global Warming" and have settled on "Climate Change" which takes place all over the world. Some areas are getting wetter while some have extended drought. Biggest question is whether it is anthropogenic or not. Myself, and I'm not Climatologist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn, think it is pretty silly to not think that all the roads we build, all the water ways we divert, all the skyscrapers we build, doesn't have some effect in weather patterns and the climate on some level. Cheers.

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Jun 30, 2014 10:38:50   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Hmmmm.

What if the shifting of the ice totals makes the axis of the earth change ?

Will the seasons of the north disappear and they stay in decades of cold or warmth?

Otherwise we better plan for winter olympics in South America.

Sarge69

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Jun 30, 2014 10:44:17   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
sarge69 wrote:
Hmmmm.

What if the shifting of the ice totals makes the axis of the earth change ?

Will the seasons of the north disappear and they stay in decades of cold or warmth?

Otherwise we better plan for winter olympics in South America.

Sarge69


Hey Sarge, do you have any hills or mountains in Florida you might in the future ski from? ;-) Cheers.

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Jun 30, 2014 10:44:56   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
This is significant, because Al Gore's fortune depends on all the money he is making from Global warming. Poor Al won't be able to afford his private Jet.

This all comes as a real shock to the EPA which has declared Carbo Dioxide to be a pollutant. Ignoring the fact, of course that all life on Earth is based entirely on carbon dioxide, without which there would be no lifeforms on this planet. So, folks we are all pollutants, made up as we are of little pieces of carbon dioxide all strung together.

The great periods of excessive life blooms on this planet coincided with very high levels of carbon dioxide - it was the Carboniferous Era, during which most of our fossil fuels were laid down. Oxygen, the oxidizer, is the real pollutant.

Global warming with high levels of carbon dioxide causes high levels of plant life and water exchange between the oceans and atmosphere, giving ample food and water for animal and human life.

Global cooling, on the other hand, even by a few degrees is associated with lower levels of water and plant life, with extinction of species, and very hard times for humans and animals. Just a few degrees of lowered temperatures in the 12th - 13th century caused the abandonment of thriving colonies on Greenland, and massive starvation in Europe.

So let's hope the lowering of temperature does not begin to affect temperate regions. Of course this is not going to affect the religious beliefs of the global warming folks. They believe in computer models and do not let facts like actual temperature readings or ice coverage confuse them or shake their faith. They will continue to let OB throttle the pipeline and the coal industry to combat that terrible pollutant CO2 because - just because!

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Jun 30, 2014 10:49:03   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
CatMarley wrote:
This is significant, because Al Gore's fortune depends on all the money he is making from Global warming. Poor Al won't be able to afford his private Jet.

This all comes as a real shock to the EPA which has declared Carbo Dioxide to be a pollutant. Ignoring the fact, of course that all life on Earth is based entirely on carbon dioxide, without which there would be no lifeforms on this planet. So, folks we are all pollutants, made up as we are of little pieces of carbon dioxide all strung together.

The great periods of excessive life blooms on this planet coincided with very high levels of carbon dioxide - it was the Carboniferous Era, during which most of our fossil fuels were laid down. Oxygen, the oxidizer, is the real pollutant.

Global warming with high levels of carbon dioxide causes high levels of plant life and water exchange between the oceans and atmosphere, giving ample food and water for animal and human life.

Global cooling, on the other hand, even by a few degrees is associated with lower levels of water and plant life, with extinction of species, and very hard times for humans and animals. Just a few degrees of lowered temperatures in the 12th - 13th century caused the abandonment of thriving colonies on Greenland, and massive starvation in Europe.

So let's hope the lowering of temperature does not begin to affect temperate regions. Of course this is not going to affect the religious beliefs of the global warming folks. They believe in computer models and do not let facts like actual temperature readings or ice coverage confuse them or shake their faith. They will continue to let OB throttle the pipeline and the coal industry to combat that terrible pollutant CO2 because - just because!
This is significant, because Al Gore's fortune dep... (show quote)

It's all the fault of Al Gore's private jet exhaust.

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Jun 30, 2014 10:57:42   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
flathead27ford wrote:
Why is this bad news for the environment? One pole loses ice, one gains. Scientists have moved away from the term "Global Warming" and have settled on "Climate Change" which takes place all over the world. Some areas are getting wetter while some have extended drought. Biggest question is whether it is anthropogenic or not. Myself, and I'm not Climatologist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn, think it is pretty silly to not think that all the roads we build, all the water ways we divert, all the skyscrapers we build, doesn't have some effect in weather patterns and the climate on some level. Cheers.
Why is this bad news for the environment? One pol... (show quote)


Actually, I think it is pretty self important to think that we humans can do anything to alter the homeostasis of this planet. Even 5 billion of us are a tiny collection of specks on the surface. the influence of all our building and burning is not even a very small percentage of the effect of events that have actually HAD some effect on the planet, like the Deccan volcanism, or the Laramide revolution, The Carboniferous, or the Cambrian era, or rhe many ice ages including the one in which ice covered the ENTIRE earth. We are truly insignificant, though not without mighty hubris!

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Jun 30, 2014 11:07:56   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
CatMarley wrote:
Actually, I think it is pretty self important to think that we humans can do anything to alter the homeostasis of this planet. Even 5 billion of us are a tiny collection of specks on the surface. the influence of all our building and burning is not even a very small percentage of the effect of events that have actually HAD some effect on the planet, like the Deccan volcanism, or the Laramide revolution, The Carboniferous, or the Cambrian era, or rhe many ice ages including the one in which ice covered the ENTIRE earth. We are truly insignificant, though not without mighty hubris!
Actually, I think it is pretty self important to t... (show quote)


We are merely an irritating fleabite on the planet's backside. Let's hope Earth doesn't try to get rid of the fleas.

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Jun 30, 2014 11:09:43   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
flathead27ford wrote:
Why is this bad news for the environment? One pole loses ice, one gains.


Actually, both are gaining. Net gain adding north and south ice packs is nearly one million square kilometers above average. I know that the facts are hard to reconcile with the beliefs that are trumpeted by the press and OB's EPA, but there it is!

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Jun 30, 2014 11:34:05   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
CatMarley wrote:
Actually, I think it is pretty self important to think that we humans can do anything to alter the homeostasis of this planet. Even 5 billion of us are a tiny collection of specks on the surface. the influence of all our building and burning is not even a very small percentage of the effect of events that have actually HAD some effect on the planet, like the Deccan volcanism, or the Laramide revolution, The Carboniferous, or the Cambrian era, or rhe many ice ages including the one in which ice covered the ENTIRE earth. We are truly insignificant, though not without mighty hubris!
Actually, I think it is pretty self important to t... (show quote)


The naive view that your espousing seems to be that no matter how much we trash the earth, she will clean up after us... the earth will survive, it just may not be a very nice place if we keep sh*tting in our waters and polluting our air... all in the name of corporate profits... and of course the newest iPhones and Toyotas.

What if it turns out that 97% of climate scientists were actually not bought off... it was the 3% that the oil companies paid for? And what about the +90% of ALL scientists that believe in anthropogenic climate change? These are the guys that invented the gadgets you use daily.

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Jun 30, 2014 11:41:30   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
user47602 wrote:
The naive view that your espousing seems to be that no matter how much we trash the earth, she will clean up after us... the earth will survive, it just may not be a very nice place if we keep sh*tting in our waters and polluting our air... all in the name of corporate profits... and of course the newest iPhones and Toyotas.


What??? Where does Cat say that? She is NOT an advocate of what you said. That is a bald-faced lie. Your liberal-thinking does the world a disfavor!! Yes we do have to manage our waste in a responsible manner and I'm sure Cat would be the first to say so. You owe CatMarley an apology.

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Jun 30, 2014 13:23:05   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
flathead27ford wrote:
Hey Sarge, do you have any hills or mountains in Florida you might in the future ski from? ;-) Cheers.


I been looking because I bought snow tires for this coming winter here.

Sarge69

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Jun 30, 2014 13:30:28   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
user47602 wrote:
The naive view that your espousing seems to be that no matter how much we trash the earth, she will clean up after us... the earth will survive, it just may not be a very nice place if we keep sh*tting in our waters and polluting our air... all in the name of corporate profits... and of course the newest iPhones and Toyotas.


Who said they didn't care about trashing the earth" This is nothing more than a straw man hyperbole.

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