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Jun 24, 2014 18:30:04   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
I came out of the dark ages of film photography with a good practical background & a degree in photo tech. I wanted to get back into photography, so I bought a D7100 with the 18-105 kit lens. That was all I could not really afford at the time, so it's the only lens I've got. I think I'll be happy with it if I can figure out the autofocus issue I'm having. I have my AF on my back button, altho it happens on the shutter button as well.

"Back in the day" all I had to do to focus, was aim at my subject and use the manual ring until it was in focus. Easy. Now, it doesn't seem like the camera has a clue of what the subject is, shows numerous rectangles in the viewfinder until it settles on one. Going thru the same motions with the same subject can get a different number of rectangles and the single rectangle always settles in a different spot. And never on the subject matter. Maybe close, but usually several inches off. Sometimes you can hear the AF motor working and when it stops, there's nothing but blur.

To get your subject in focus, how do you tell the camera what the subject is so it can autofocus on it? So who has the adjustment problem: the lens or me? Somebody, HELP!!

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Jun 24, 2014 18:43:58   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Go to Menu/Custom Setting Menu... then look under "a"....

What do you have the autofocus set at?

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Jun 24, 2014 18:50:36   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
I came out of the dark ages of film photography with a good practical background & a degree in photo tech. I wanted to get back into photography, so I bought a D7100 with the 18-105 kit lens. That was all I could not really afford at the time, so it's the only lens I've got. I think I'll be happy with it if I can figure out the autofocus issue I'm having. I have my AF on my back button, altho it happens on the shutter button as well.

"Back in the day" all I had to do to focus, was aim at my subject and use the manual ring until it was in focus. Easy. Now, it doesn't seem like the camera has a clue of what the subject is, shows numerous rectangles in the viewfinder until it settles on one. Going thru the same motions with the same subject can get a different number of rectangles and the single rectangle always settles in a different spot. And never on the subject matter. Maybe close, but usually several inches off. Sometimes you can hear the AF motor working and when it stops, there's nothing but blur.

To get your subject in focus, how do you tell the camera what the subject is so it can autofocus on it? So who has the adjustment problem: the lens or me? Somebody, HELP!!
I came out of the dark ages of film photography wi... (show quote)


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is the camera. You have the camera using multiple focus points and in some instances the camera will hunt for focus. The best way to control the jumping focus is to set the camera for single point focus. I am not sure how it works with the D7100. On the D90 you go to menu item A in the custom settings menu click ok then choose either single point, dynamic area or 3d tracking. Single point is the one to choose. Then on the back of the camera you move the focus selector lock switch to the dot and you can use the little round wheel around the ok button to choose which of the focus points you want to use. I am sure it is similar on the D7100.

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Jun 24, 2014 20:27:02   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Go to Menu/Custom Setting Menu... then look under "a"....

What do you have the autofocus set at?


a1 AF-C priority selection: focus
a2 AF-S priority selection: focus

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Jun 24, 2014 20:41:29   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
a1 AF-C priority selection: focus
a2 AF-S priority selection: focus


OK Now go down to a6. If you select 51 point, you will cover a larger area for AF. Bt selecting "focus" above your shutter will only release when focus has been attained....

Good luck!

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Jun 24, 2014 21:02:04   #
photon56 Loc: North America
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
I came out of the dark ages of film photography with a good practical background & a degree in photo tech. I wanted to get back into photography, so I bought a D7100 with the 18-105 kit lens. That was all I could not really afford at the time, so it's the only lens I've got. I think I'll be happy with it if I can figure out the autofocus issue I'm having. I have my AF on my back button, altho it happens on the shutter button as well.

"Back in the day" all I had to do to focus, was aim at my subject and use the manual ring until it was in focus. Easy. Now, it doesn't seem like the camera has a clue of what the subject is, shows numerous rectangles in the viewfinder until it settles on one. Going thru the same motions with the same subject can get a different number of rectangles and the single rectangle always settles in a different spot. And never on the subject matter. Maybe close, but usually several inches off. Sometimes you can hear the AF motor working and when it stops, there's nothing but blur.

To get your subject in focus, how do you tell the camera what the subject is so it can autofocus on it? So who has the adjustment problem: the lens or me? Somebody, HELP!!
I came out of the dark ages of film photography wi... (show quote)


Like jethro779 said, you want to set your AF to single focus. This will only focus where the square box in the viewfinder pointed. It would be good to experiment with all the AF settings to see how they behave. You now know how the auto AF setting behaves.

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Jun 24, 2014 21:04:57   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
jethro779 wrote:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is the camera. You have the camera using multiple focus points and in some instances the camera will hunt for focus. The best way to control the jumping focus is to set the camera for single point focus. I am not sure how it works with the D7100. On the D90 you go to menu item A in the custom settings menu click ok then choose either single point, dynamic area or 3d tracking. Single point is the one to choose. Then on the back of the camera you move the focus selector lock switch to the dot and you can use the little round wheel around the ok button to choose which of the focus points you want to use. I am sure it is similar on the D7100.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is the... (show quote)


Seems like its me and not the camera. The camera doesn't seem to be "broken," but rather that there are so many buttons, dials, menus and choices to learn, that I haven't done my job in understanding, learning, and memorizing them. :shock: This ain't like my old SLR! :roll: :(

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Jun 24, 2014 21:11:18   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
Seems like its me and not the camera. The camera doesn't seem to be "broken," but rather that there are so many buttons, dials, menus and choices to learn, that I haven't done my job in understanding, learning, and memorizing them. :shock: This ain't like my old SLR! :roll: :(


You can always use manual focus. There is a switch on the left side of the camera near where the lens attaches. Switch to "M" and you have turned off AF. You can also leave it on AF and use the manual switch on the lense. It's on the left side of the lens. Move it to "M" (the setting closer to the camera body) and you are good to go.

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Jun 24, 2014 21:13:06   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
Seems like its me and not the camera. The camera doesn't seem to be "broken," but rather that there are so many buttons, dials, menus and choices to learn, that I haven't done my job in understanding, learning, and memorizing them. :shock: This ain't like my old SLR! :roll: :(


Of course it is not like the old slr's it's cheaper on film.... :lol: :lol:

Seriously, You need to get David Busch's Nikon D7100 guide to Digital SLR Photography or his Compact Field guide to the Nikon D7100. I have his books for the D 80, D90, & D3000 and find them all useful.

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Jun 24, 2014 21:15:39   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
photon56 wrote:
Like jethro779 said, you want to set your AF to single focus. This will only focus where the square box in the viewfinder pointed. It would be good to experiment with all the AF settings to see how they behave. You now know how the auto AF setting behaves.


Sentence #1: Did that.
Sentence #2: That's a relief!
Sentence #3: Good idea.
Sentence #4: Maybe. It's still needs to all sink in. :shock: :-D
Thanks for responding.

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Jun 24, 2014 21:19:02   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
jethro779 wrote:
Of course it is not like the old slr's it's cheaper on film.... :lol: :lol:

Seriously, You need to get David Busch's Nikon D7100 guide to Digital SLR Photography or his Compact Field guide to the Nikon D7100. I have his books for the D 80, D90, & D3000 and find them all useful.


I've got Darrell Young's book "Mastering the Nikon D7100," which I really like, but obviously, I haven't read the whole book. :-D Thanks for responding.

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Jun 24, 2014 21:21:20   #
Tiny Tim Loc: Forest of the Pacific Northwest
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
You can always use manual focus. There is a switch on the left side of the camera near where the lens attaches. Switch to "M" and you have turned off AF. You can also leave it on AF and use the manual switch on the lense. It's on the left side of the lens. Move it to "M" (the setting closer to the camera body) and you are good to go.


Gonna have to try that too. Thanks for responding. I'm finally getting my nerves back together over this. :lol:

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Jun 24, 2014 21:32:54   #
Coyote9269 Loc: USA
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
I came out of the dark ages of film photography with a good practical background & a degree in photo tech. I wanted to get back into photography, so I bought a D7100 with the 18-105 kit lens. That was all I could not really afford at the time, so it's the only lens I've got. I think I'll be happy with it if I can figure out the autofocus issue I'm having. I have my AF on my back button, altho it happens on the shutter button as well.

"Back in the day" all I had to do to focus, was aim at my subject and use the manual ring until it was in focus. Easy. Now, it doesn't seem like the camera has a clue of what the subject is, shows numerous rectangles in the viewfinder until it settles on one. Going thru the same motions with the same subject can get a different number of rectangles and the single rectangle always settles in a different spot. And never on the subject matter. Maybe close, but usually several inches off. Sometimes you can hear the AF motor working and when it stops, there's nothing but blur.

To get your subject in focus, how do you tell the camera what the subject is so it can autofocus on it? So who has the adjustment problem: the lens or me? Somebody, HELP!!
I came out of the dark ages of film photography wi... (show quote)


I will not give the redundant good advice that was already given. I will add that you can either book mark or download the manual from Nikon onto your phone. There are other sights also. It works well in the field as a quick cheat until you get home and back to the book.

https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/18247/~/users-manual---nikon-d7100

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d7100.htm

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Jun 24, 2014 21:50:36   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Tiny Tim wrote:
Gonna have to try that too. Thanks for responding. I'm finally getting my nerves back together over this. :lol:



Once you get the hang of the D7100, you will love what you can do with it. I have Daryl Young's books on both the D300 & D7100. I really like his format.

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Jun 24, 2014 22:07:57   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Mark, if you are making the jump from the old days of completely manual cameras to the ever evolving world of digital photography I can commiserate with you. Everything you know about exposure and composition will still be valid but the abundance of controls that the new cameras have can be perplexing, to say the least. You have had some good suggestions about using single point focus and finding an aftermarket manual about your camera model. The camera manual that the manufacturer gives you tells you what each button does, the aftermarket book tells you the why, how and when part of it.

One thing I would suggest is that you choose to use either back button autofocus or shutter button AF and not have both active at the same time. If you use the BBF to tell the camera what you want to focus on, reframe and then press the shutter button the lens will refocus on whatever is covered by the focus point.

The more you know about the autofocus and exposure systems of you new camera the better off you will be. Coming from a totally manual system you will need time to learn what you can safely allow the camera to make decisions about and what you need to control yourself. Relax and have fun!

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