Shinseki Resigned from the VA
May 31, 2014 16:24:35 #
Someone had to be blamed for the way that our veterans have been treated and were lied to. I hope that the atmosphere and attitudes change for the better under new management, but I fear that they won't.
Problems at the VA have become legion. If you remember the movie "Born on the Fourth of July", problems at a VA hospital were illustrated in that.
I can't really see that Shinseki was the problem during his watch. He was just readily available to be blamed so our congress persons on both sides of the aisle could pat each other on the back and say the problem is now solved.
I wonder if the incumbent will be as active in fixing the VA problems as he is about fixing his ACA. Personally, I don't think so.
Problems at the VA have become legion. If you remember the movie "Born on the Fourth of July", problems at a VA hospital were illustrated in that.
I can't really see that Shinseki was the problem during his watch. He was just readily available to be blamed so our congress persons on both sides of the aisle could pat each other on the back and say the problem is now solved.
I wonder if the incumbent will be as active in fixing the VA problems as he is about fixing his ACA. Personally, I don't think so.
May 31, 2014 16:29:17 #
If the guy at the top is not responsible, then who is? If he is not responsible then no one is. That's a catch 22 - no one is responsible thus the problems will never be solved. I'm no fan of China, but they execute people in charge when they screw up on a massive scale. Maybe a few drones should take out the top echelon at the all the screwed up VA hospitals, then I have a feeling people will be falling all over themselves to make improvements.
May 31, 2014 16:39:58 #
Bobspez wrote:
If the guy at the top is not responsible, then who is? If he is not responsible then no one is. That's a catch 22 - no one is responsible thus the problems will never be solved. I'm no fan of China, but they execute people in charge when they screw up on a massive scale. Maybe a few drones should take out the top echelon at the all the screwed up VA hospitals, then I have a feeling people will be falling all over themselves to make improvements.
The guy at the top - that would be Obama...
Since it has been proven that local leadership cannot be trusted, Shinseki's replacement needs to start conducting unannounced visits and talking to the patients - or have undercover patients providing feedback... Either way, they need to get a handle on this and provide the services.
May 31, 2014 16:51:51 #
Shellback wrote:
The guy at the top - that would be Obama...
Since it has been proven that local leadership cannot be trusted, Shinseki's replacement needs to start conducting unannounced visits and talking to the patients - or have undercover patients providing feedback... Either way, they need to get a handle on this and provide the services.
Since it has been proven that local leadership cannot be trusted, Shinseki's replacement needs to start conducting unannounced visits and talking to the patients - or have undercover patients providing feedback... Either way, they need to get a handle on this and provide the services.
:thumbup:
Jun 1, 2014 07:47:58 #
Bobspez wrote:
If the guy at the top is not responsible, then who is? If he is not responsible then no one is. That's a catch 22 - no one is responsible thus the problems will never be solved. I'm no fan of China, but they execute people in charge when they screw up on a massive scale. Maybe a few drones should take out the top echelon at the all the screwed up VA hospitals, then I have a feeling people will be falling all over themselves to make improvements.
There are a lot of people to blame, but those responsible for cutting the VA budget year after year surely earned a lot of that blame. I do recall that Obama failed to get around $20 billion that he requested for VA upgrades.
Jun 1, 2014 08:44:05 #
Bobspez wrote:
If the guy at the top is not responsible, then who is? If he is not responsible then no one is. That's a catch 22 - no one is responsible thus the problems will never be solved. I'm no fan of China, but they execute people in charge when they screw up on a massive scale. Maybe a few drones should take out the top echelon at the all the screwed up VA hospitals, then I have a feeling people will be falling all over themselves to make improvements.
If they could follow china way to deal with corruption or incompetence at high levels, we could have a lot of widows/widowers in the Wall Street sector...and among our servant ( masters really ) in the Congress and House of Representatives.
Jun 1, 2014 10:03:32 #
Shellback wrote:
The guy at the top - that would be Obama...
Yup. Just as the guy at the top when 9/11 happened was Bush ... or was it Cheney, I can't recall.
Jun 1, 2014 11:11:46 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
ACA seems to be working just fine!
sye wrote:
Someone had to be blamed for the way that our vete... (show quote)
Jun 1, 2014 11:18:22 #
Bobspez wrote:
If the guy at the top is not responsible, then who is? If he is not responsible then no one is. That's a catch 22 - no one is responsible thus the problems will never be solved. I'm no fan of China, but they execute people in charge when they screw up on a massive scale. Maybe a few drones should take out the top echelon at the all the screwed up VA hospitals, then I have a feeling people will be falling all over themselves to make improvements.
So they move the #2 guy, who is equally responsible, to the top spot and they think something will change ??
Jun 1, 2014 11:19:42 #
ole sarg wrote:
ACA seems to be working just fine!
How can it be working when nobody has met their huge deductible yet ??
Until they do they pay the whole bill.
Jun 1, 2014 16:37:12 #
ole sarg wrote:
ACA seems to be working just fine!
The question is whether he will demonstrate the EXACT SAME strength of devotion toward fixing the VA hospitals for our vets as he has shown toward the rest of his constituents, NOT whether his ACA is working better.
What is your opinion?
Jun 1, 2014 17:09:58 #
Obama has taken small steps all the way. Time will tell if he fixes the VA. So far he has done as much for big business and the military industrial complex as he has done for the middle class and the poor. He's been a very conservative liberal. He doesn't commit to anything until there is broad based overwhelming support for it. He won't go to bat for an issue until the vast majority of his constinuency not only wants it, but thinks it's way overdue.
sye wrote:
The question is whether he will demonstrate the EXACT SAME strength of devotion toward fixing the VA hospitals for our vets as he has shown toward the rest of his constituents, NOT whether his ACA is working better.
What is your opinion?
What is your opinion?
Jun 2, 2014 14:00:22 #
sye wrote:
Someone had to be blamed for the way that our vete... (show quote)
Isn't it a sad commentary on US, that we have to blame the new guy, when the problem has existed for decades.
Yes, he didn't "fix" things, but holding him responsible is political gamesplaying and nothing else.
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