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May 29, 2014 13:07:25   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-brain-trust/052714-702273-why-are-underperforming-va-hospitals-getting-performance-bonuses-.htm?p=2

VA is not the only agency giving out bonuses. Our government needs a serious overhaul. :hunf:

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May 29, 2014 13:16:58   #
creativ simon Loc: Coulsdon, South London
 
:thumbup:

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May 29, 2014 13:21:28   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
creativ simon wrote:
:thumbup:


Thanks Simon. :-D

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May 30, 2014 07:16:03   #
Red Bear
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 30, 2014 09:55:18   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
bcheary wrote:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-brain-trust/052714-702273-why-are-underperforming-va-hospitals-getting-performance-bonuses-.htm?p=2

VA is not the only agency giving out bonuses. Our government needs a serious overhaul. :hunf:


Surely you knew that before now. :lol:

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May 30, 2014 10:35:28   #
Red Bear
 
GeneB wrote:
Surely you knew that before now. :lol:


Hey, GeneB, I was USAF and don't recognize all U.S. Army patches, but, you were "combat MP" right?

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May 30, 2014 11:22:48   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
GeneB wrote:
Surely you knew that before now. :lol:


Unfortunately yes. :(

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May 30, 2014 13:46:10   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
bcheary wrote:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-brain-trust/052714-702273-why-are-underperforming-va-hospitals-getting-performance-bonuses-.htm?p=2

VA is not the only agency giving out bonuses. Our government needs a serious overhaul. :hunf:


Bonuses are given for doing an exceptional job, not for doing your job or showing up to sit at a desk all day.

In corp. America production is measured and rewarded.

In government America, all departments are overfunded, therefor they have to spend it ( they call it bonuses ) or their budget gets reduced.

At the end of the year they want zero money left over on the books and demand that their budget get increased.

They will increase the dept.'s personnel, usually for no other reason than to increase their budget.

The VA is a perfect example.
Over staffed and produce substandard production.

They have 8 Dr.s, who in one week see as many patients as one regular Dr. sees in 1 day.

They are lawyered up ( and they don't come cheap ) to excess.

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May 30, 2014 14:00:01   #
Red Bear
 
bvm wrote:
Bonuses are given for doing an exceptional job, not for doing your job or showing up to sit at a desk all day.

In corp. America production is measured and rewarded.

In government America, all departments are overfunded, therefor they have to spend it ( they call it bonuses ) or their budget gets reduced.

At the end of the year they want zero money left over on the books and demand that their budget get increased.

They will increase the dept.'s personnel, usually for no other reason than to increase their budget.

The VA is a perfect example.
Over staffed and produce substandard production.

They have 8 Dr.s, who in one week see as many patients as one regular Dr. sees in 1 day.

They are lawyered up ( and they don't come cheap ) to excess.
Bonuses are given for doing an exceptional job, no... (show quote)


Your DVAMC in Phoenix is full of criminals AND is understaffed, both. My DVAMC (in Denver) is ALWAYS, for the last 45 years, understaffed and does us a good job, albeit, at times, slowly.

Your idea that "Corporate America" rewards with EARNED bonus rewards is about 60 - 70 years outta date. Look up CEO compensation of the Fortune 500 and get back to all of us with a "term paper" on that, huh?

If I held as much influence as, say, Warren Buffett, NOBODY would be getting $10 - $20 - $30 MILLION bonuses - especially until all of the legal shareholders are back to "even" from before the 9/11 attacks and the "Great Recession."

My wife and I have some very good stocks (for our retirement) that were in float in the mid-to-late 1990's at $35 - $65 per share - And I'll sell ALL of them to the first person that offers me $18/share (Careful now, that will cost you low 6 figures!). And the CEO's of a couple of the companies that issued those shares are being compensated in excess of $25 MILLION each year.

Opinion: Fine. Facts? Not so much. :D

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May 30, 2014 14:25:22   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
What it really comes down to is WHY are the feds getting any bonuses.

And You can find problems in every state VA.

"Your DVAMC in Phoenix is full of criminals" perhaps you're correct but they are FEDERAL CRIMINALS, and YOU pay for them TOO.

Probably 80-85% of people in AZ. come from another state.
Federal employees get transfers, usually just before they got caught in their own state.

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May 30, 2014 14:54:34   #
Red Bear
 
bvm wrote:
What it really comes down to is WHY are the feds getting any bonuses.

And You can find problems in every state VA.

"Your DVAMC in Phoenix is full of criminals" perhaps you're correct but they are FEDERAL CRIMINALS, and YOU pay for them TOO.

Probably 80-85% of people in AZ. come from another state.
Federal employees get transfers, usually just before they got caught in their own state.


No argument on the federal criminal thing, but I will point out that Phoenix is leading the entire nation in DVAMC employees headed to the Federal Courthouse for trial.

And, yer preaching to the choir on people from outta state. Are you an Arizona native? 'Cause that would mean that we've got something in common - western natives. When I was a kid, Phoenix was a little place. And, my home town, Colorado Springs, now, 630,000 metro area, was about 25,000.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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May 30, 2014 15:53:25   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
bvm wrote:
Bonuses are given for doing an exceptional job, not for doing your job or showing up to sit at a desk all day.

In corp. America production is measured and rewarded.

In government America, all departments are overfunded, therefor they have to spend it ( they call it bonuses ) or their budget gets reduced.

At the end of the year they want zero money left over on the books and demand that their budget get increased.

They will increase the dept.'s personnel, usually for no other reason than to increase their budget.

The VA is a perfect example.
Over staffed and produce substandard production.

They have 8 Dr.s, who in one week see as many patients as one regular Dr. sees in 1 day.

They are lawyered up ( and they don't come cheap ) to excess.
Bonuses are given for doing an exceptional job, no... (show quote)


Yup. Typical government. Tax and spend. No savings.

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May 30, 2014 18:41:55   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
And they replace bad guys with more bad guys.

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May 30, 2014 19:23:40   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
BigBear wrote:
And they replace bad guys with more bad guys.


Replace them with people who can't handle the situation, no Politics.

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May 30, 2014 20:07:01   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
bvm wrote:
Replace them with people who can't handle the situation, no Politics.


Well it is going to be interesting now that the Secretary of the VA has resigned. :mrgreen:

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