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May 3, 2014 22:56:25   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Pentony wrote:
How about the Nikon Nikkor 18-140mm f3.5-5.6 ED VR?
See DP lens review with this lens mounted on a D7100.

Do you have a link for the specific review. What I have seen on dpreview uses data from DxOMark. Looking at the zooms mounted on the D7100, there several sharper options.

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May 4, 2014 01:46:08   #
georgevedwards Loc: Essex, Maryland.
 
Some people have a lot of money and like to buy things that are too expensive for other people, this separates them from the rif-raf. On the other hand, I inherited some money once and was finally able to buy that expensive but fine item I could never afford before. To have that state of the Canon for several thousand and that Gibson Guitar for several thousand, I certainly can say my finished creations were better than anything I had done before, and the joy of using an instrument that gives such easy and excellent results boosted my joy and creativity levels tenfold, and you just want to use them all the time. Then the money runs out (banks destroyed my stocks and they never recovered) and the bridge on my Martin 12 string pulls off and I can't afford $120 to get it fixed. Oh well, no primes for a while...
Bram boy wrote:
your right but . I believe your talking cheep primes . if what you say is any where near true . why would any one buy a $4000 , $6000 prime instead of
a 150-600mm zoom for $1300 . the zooms are not there yet , and probably never will be .

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May 4, 2014 01:54:23   #
georgevedwards Loc: Essex, Maryland.
 
I have the 18-55mm zoom (kit and Nikon D5200) and am also in love with the range for landscape. Then one day I went to the local garden where the tulips bloom once a year and it was useless. Oh, for a good zoom like up to the 300mm or more range, even my 50-200mm did not do the trick at 200mm, to stand above a flower with your tripod and try to get a closeup, it was too soft at that range;, worked great around 90-120 though but couldn't get that good sharp zoom closeup. I had the same problem with my older Canon and the 28-300mm Tamron (circa 2005 or earlier, maybe they have something better now), just never could get that sharp extreme closeup. I won't even mention depth of field problems. (arghhh!!!).
shutterbob wrote:
I have a D7100 (& a D610). I have a Nikon 24-70 f2.8, Nikon 17-55 f2.8, Nikon 18-200 VR II, Nikon 28-300 VR, Sigma 18-35 f1.8, Nikon 70-200 VR, along with a few others. The 17-55 lives on my D7100 almost all of the time. They are all good lenses with their own purposes, but the 17-55 is a perfect match for the 7100 just as the 24-70 is for the 610. I have never regretted spending the money for it. It is super sharp edge to edge, has great low light capabilities, and is built to last a lifetime. It is wide enough for almost all my shots (which are mostly landscapes). Best DX lens ever made IMO.
I have a D7100 (& a D610). I have a Nikon 24-7... (show quote)

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May 4, 2014 03:34:45   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Gene51 wrote:
Here we go again - primes are good, and some are pretty bad, and the same can be said for zooms. There are some zooms that perform equally to they corresponding primes. Making such general statements do not add to the conversation, but they do create a misleading impression that primes are always better than zooms, which is clearly not the case. I use and own both. So this is from experience, that I have accumulated over a 48 year period.

What you say used to be the case, back in the 60s and 70s through to the mid 80s - but since then optical design has improved to the point where a good pro zoom is just as good - and far more flexible to use than primes.
Here we go again - primes are good, and some are p... (show quote)


Nope.

Comparing only the top of the line lenses. Zooms are better at zooming and they are pretty darn great- no argument there. But there is a cost.

Primes are better at whatever focal length they are than a zoom set to match. There would be no market for expensive primes if not.

Physics- you can't argue with physics. Half the glass, half the surfaces, half the air spaces, half the size and weight, 1/4 the precision of all the complicated grouping interactions involved, no aperture control… .

But you gain one thing you loose another. A zoom represents a suitcase of primes. A prime is generally 1/4 the size & weight of a zoom ( not always accurate- but generally) . A zoom is almost as sharp, a prime is the sharpest. A D800 or med format can "make use"/benefit, and deliver the result of the sharpest in large prints. an image only used on the net- does not benefit… you gain one thing you loose another.

So if you get a 24-70 and find you have it at 24 90% of the time and only wish it was a bit wider… and are sick of carrying a lead weight around your neck, get an 18 or 21 prime.

As far as the sharpest zoom for the OP: look at used prices- they represent what people have come to value an item for as a reflection of their "worth". A lens that does't cut it, won't sell well.
The Nikon Holy trinity is a best bet for a set of zooms that will hold their value.

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May 4, 2014 08:03:19   #
lone ranger Loc: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
 
True, but the photograph"s that you shoot with a high quality lens like that truly are steller works, if composed and shot properly, the lesser lenses are a crap shoot, in my opinion!
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Fixed aperture, no...The poster means constant maximum aperture.
In this case, the maximum aperture of the lens stays at f/2.8 through the whole focal length range.
It will stop down to whatever aperture you set but doesn't get dimmer as you zoom out.
Lesser lenses get dimmer as you zoom out to the longest focal length.
For example, Nikon's 70-300 has a maximum aperture of f/4.5 at 70mm and f/5.6 at 300mm.
On the other hand, the 70-200 2.8 has a constant f/2.8 maximum aperture throughout the whole range.
Makes it great for low-light situations, but it's not as easy on the pocketbook or shoulders.
Fixed aperture, no...The poster means i constant ... (show quote)

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May 4, 2014 11:54:21   #
WereWolf1967 Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
DOOK wrote:
The two sharpest zooms I use on my D7100 both happen to be Sigmas....17-50mm f2.8, & a 70-200mm f2.8. They are both razor sharp throughout their range, but the 17-50mm at 50mm & around f5.6 to f16 is an absolute tack driver.


After looking at the replies to the original question, I find it amazing that in many instances the aftermarket lenses performed much better than the Nikkors. Originally, the major aftermarket brands sold on price point alone but now, more of us are demanding at least as good a quality from ALL lens manufacturer's products. They've had to adapt to survive and Tamron, Sigma, Tokina & others have adapted very well to the consumer demands.
T they too
While Nikon, Canon, Pentax and others have their reputations riding on ALL of their lenses, the major aftermarket manufacturer's are now finding out they too are being judged on the same criteria by the discerning consumers. It's a dog eat dog market out there and it's survival of the fittest.

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May 4, 2014 12:38:55   #
The Fonz Loc: Queensland, mate!
 
I'd second what reinaldokool (p.5) said: Check your camera settings. On better cameras you can adjust the AF focus point; it may be off on your camera, be it across several lenses, or just one. But those lenses, if they're technically ok, can give very sharp results. Or you have to work on your technique.
Or change formats if you're unhappy in general. I doubt that being an issue though.

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May 4, 2014 15:37:27   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Ambrose wrote:
Thanks. I guess I'm looking for any specific brands or models folks have had solid experience with.


Everything suggested has been Nikon. Now you want a less expensive bargain, or do you want the sharpest, as posted?

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May 4, 2014 20:35:14   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
romanticf16 wrote:
Everything suggested has been Nikon. Now you want a less expensive bargain, or do you want the sharpest, as posted?

Several Sigma and Tamron lenses have been suggested, starting on the first page.

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May 5, 2014 00:54:45   #
country Loc: back woods
 
Ambrose wrote:
I would like to hear opinions on what you may consider the sharpest zoom available for Nikon. I've grown unsatisfied with my 18-150 and 18-200 due to generally soft results on my D7100.
I shoot mostly landscapes, so I would be looking at the wide end on the low side.
Thoughts?


no one has mentioned the tokina... on my d7000 I get great results with the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 for landscapes...

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May 5, 2014 12:51:43   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
country wrote:
no one has mentioned the tokina... on my d7000 I get great results with the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 for landscapes...

There's a Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX due to arrive in my driveway on Thursday.

I compared specs and reviews for Sigma 8-16 f/4-5.6, and 10-20 f/4-5.6 and f/3.5, Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5, Nikkor 10-24 f/3.5-4.5, and Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 and 11-16 2.8 DX II.

Prices were from $450 to $750, with the upper prices being for image stabilization. I don't think I need image stabilization for this lens.

Surprisingly the older version of the Tokina got better ratings and reviews than the newer DXII version and as good or better than the Nikon 10-24. The zoom ratio is less (1.45 compared to the 10-24's 2.4), but I believe that leads to fewer compromises in IQ.

In this case the cheapest lens turned out to be the best for what I wanted, regardless of the cost. :-D

EDIT: I didn't post this before because Ambrose wrote, "I'm looking for any specific brands or models folks have had solid experience with." But I think the specs are worth looking at.

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May 6, 2014 02:28:44   #
country Loc: back woods
 
OddJobber wrote:
There's a Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX due to arrive in my driveway on Thursday.

I compared specs and reviews for Sigma 8-16 f/4-5.6, and 10-20 f/4-5.6 and f/3.5, Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5, Nikkor 10-24 f/3.5-4.5, and Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 and 11-16 2.8 DX II.

Prices were from $450 to $750, with the upper prices being for image stabilization. I don't think I need image stabilization for this lens.

Surprisingly the older version of the Tokina got better ratings and reviews than the newer DXII version and as good or better than the Nikon 10-24. The zoom ratio is less (1.45 compared to the 10-24's 2.4), but I believe that leads to fewer compromises in IQ.

In this case the cheapest lens turned out to be the best for what I wanted, regardless of the cost. :-D

EDIT: I didn't post this before because Ambrose wrote, "I'm looking for any specific brands or models folks have had solid experience with." But I think the specs are worth looking at.
There's a Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX due... (show quote)


I think you will like this lens... pretty sure the more expensive one also has focusing motor in it, which I didn't need since the d7000 has that in the body... got mine on ebay for $450, like new, works great....

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May 6, 2014 02:46:30   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
60 hours and counting. :)

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May 6, 2014 04:55:18   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
It's an excellent lens, but you will have to be careful about flare (if you have a bright source in frame), and it tends to have a lot of chromatic aberration (blue/yellow) near the borders if the image is defocused there. Sometimes they are decentered. Check your corners carefully--they should all be equally sharp.

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May 6, 2014 09:57:03   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
tradio wrote:
14-24, 24-70, 70-200


Nikon's three sharpest lens; have all three and love them.

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