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Apr 25, 2014 07:59:20   #
h2odog Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
It seems that the WiFi feature on the Sony RX100II allows for wireless image transfer from the camera to a computer but this is not possible with Panasonic or Olympus. My friend recently bought a Panasonic Lumix LF1 and I am expecting delivery of an EM-10 and when I found out that the Panasonic didn't allow wireless image transfer, I did some research and for the EM-1 on the Cameralabs website for this is what I found out, "There's still no means to upload direct from the camera to sharing services, nor offer image transfer to laptops." I assume this applies to the EM-10 as well. Wireless one click transfer is a very nice feature on the Sony. It seems odd that Panasonic and Olympus don't have it as well. I wonder how many people know this?

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Apr 25, 2014 08:03:37   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
I only "played" with the wireless image transfer capability on my E-M1 once, to send an image to my Samsung tablet. It worked very well, but since I only use the tablet to show some photos, not to edit them, it's just as fast (probably faster) to load from the card directly to the desktop computer.
I don't think I'll be using this wireless transfer very much.

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Apr 25, 2014 08:04:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
h2odog wrote:
It seems that the WiFi feature on the Sony RX100II allows for wireless image transfer from the camera to a computer but this is not possible with Panasonic or Olympus. My friend recently bought a Panasonic Lumix LF1 and I am expecting delivery of an EM-10 and when I found out that the Panasonic didn't allow wireless image transfer, I did some research and for the EM-1 on the Cameralabs website for this is what I found out, "There's still no means to upload direct from the camera to sharing services, nor offer image transfer to laptops." I assume this applies to the EM-10 as well. Wireless one click transfer is a very nice feature on the Sony. It seems odd that Panasonic and Olympus don't have it as well. I wonder how many people know this?
It seems that the WiFi feature on the Sony RX100II... (show quote)

Yeah, I've found that "Wi-Fi" can be a misleading term, since it can mean different things on different cameras. Eventually, they will all have that feature, and it will do everything. For now, we have Eye-Fi cards. I use them in all my cameras, and I've been spoiled. When I come back to the computer after shooting, I see that the images have already started uploading.

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Apr 25, 2014 08:31:35   #
h2odog Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
Morning Star wrote:
I only "played" with the wireless image transfer capability on my E-M1 once, to send an image to my Samsung tablet. It worked very well, but since I only use the tablet to show some photos, not to edit them, it's just as fast (probably faster) to load from the card directly to the desktop computer.
I don't think I'll be using this wireless transfer very much.


Is it that you can view images on your tablet or are they transferred to the tablet either to a separate folder or program such as LR, Aperture, PS, etc.?

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Apr 25, 2014 09:15:29   #
SHLeM52 Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
I've been wanting to know more about the Eye-Fi cards. Are they pretty dependable? Have never talked to anyone that has used them.

jerryc41 wrote:
Yeah, I've found that "Wi-Fi" can be a misleading term, since it can mean different things on different cameras. Eventually, they will all have that feature, and it will do everything. For now, we have Eye-Fi cards. I use them in all my cameras, and I've been spoiled. When I come back to the computer after shooting, I see that the images have already started uploading.

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Apr 25, 2014 09:44:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SHLeM52 wrote:
I've been wanting to know more about the Eye-Fi cards. Are they pretty dependable? Have never talked to anyone that has used them.

First make sure your camera is compatible. Then decide if you want it to upload raw images. I think that requires the Pro version.

They can be tricky to set up, but they have always worked for me. They get assigned to one email address and computer, but you can change that. When I have been stuck, I have either found the solution online or emailed them for a solution.

Transfer isn't as fast as with a cable or putting the card into a computer, but it gets the job done without opening/closing plugging/unplugging.

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Apr 25, 2014 09:47:49   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
What Eye-Fi cards would you recommend? I've heard good and bad and I've never seen it done.
jerryc41 wrote:
Yeah, I've found that "Wi-Fi" can be a misleading term, since it can mean different things on different cameras. Eventually, they will all have that feature, and it will do everything. For now, we have Eye-Fi cards. I use them in all my cameras, and I've been spoiled. When I come back to the computer after shooting, I see that the images have already started uploading.

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Apr 25, 2014 09:57:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DavidPine wrote:
What Eye-Fi cards would you recommend? I've heard good and bad and I've never seen it done.

I think 8GB is my largest, and I have a Pro or two. If I'm traveling, I'll use standard 16 or 32GB cards.

Read the descriptions on their site and decide what you need. It's better to get more than you think you will need. The first card I got didn't upload raw files.

Basically, the cards work, and any problems I've had have been because I didn't have them setup right, but answers were available.

I just got a CF/SD adaptor that is said to work with Eye-Fi, so I'll have to try that with my D70.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YZGCIU/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Apr 25, 2014 19:10:07   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Thank you.

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Apr 26, 2014 10:56:45   #
caljr Loc: Indiana
 
Eye-Fi is not recommended for CF. I use Eye-fi on my Fuji X-E1 and it works great but it took some time to set up and I found that my first card was defective so they sent me a new one. I tried the card with a SD/CF adapter on my D700 and it did not work at all.

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Apr 26, 2014 11:07:48   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
caljr wrote:
Eye-Fi is not recommended for CF. I use Eye-fi on my Fuji X-E1 and it works great but it took some time to set up and I found that my first card was defective so they sent me a new one. I tried the card with a SD/CF adapter on my D700 and it did not work at all.

Up until now, the CF/SD adaptors did not work. I just got one that is supposed to work with Eye-Fi, but I haven't tried it yet.

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Apr 26, 2014 15:02:26   #
Kuzano
 
h2odog wrote:
It seems that the WiFi feature on the Sony RX100II allows for wireless image transfer from the camera to a computer but this is not possible with Panasonic or Olympus. My friend recently bought a Panasonic Lumix LF1 and I am expecting delivery of an EM-10 and when I found out that the Panasonic didn't allow wireless image transfer, I did some research and for the EM-1 on the Cameralabs website for this is what I found out, "There's still no means to upload direct from the camera to sharing services, nor offer image transfer to laptops." I assume this applies to the EM-10 as well. Wireless one click transfer is a very nice feature on the Sony. It seems odd that Panasonic and Olympus don't have it as well. I wonder how many people know this?
It seems that the WiFi feature on the Sony RX100II... (show quote)


Just so you are aware, you should make sure that the floor between the camera and the target (computer) is a hard surface. You need to be able to use a little whisk broom and pan to sweep up the pixels that don't make the trip and fall to the floor. A proper computer will have a small hatch on top where you can load these errant pixels into the computer to be combined with the original wire transfer pixels that made the trip successfully.

In a way, wireless delivery is like shooting JPEG, so I hope you are shooting RAW. The similarity to JPEG is in the lost pixels that don't make the "trip".

By shooting RAW, you have more of the original data to be lost to the LWDT method (Lost Wireless Data Transfer). You can initiate a check-sum method to check all the bytes after the "sweep and load" process to see if you got them all into the final image.

You will improve your process if you DO NOT combine JPEG image files with the LWDT system. Shoot RAW.

Almost everybody on the UHH will surely tell you that shooting anything other than RAW is simply Insane and Moronic. I have to admit that when you experience LDWT they may be right. (Wait... change that first sentence from "Almost everybody on the UHH" to "Everybody on the UHH".)

I understand your dilemma. My cousin lost both his forearms in an EID blast in Afghanistan, and has a lot of trouble handling simple cable and or memory card reader data transfers with no hands. Wireless on his digital camera would be a GodSend for him.

He is also rather "pissed" at Panasonic and Sony for not starting their advertising with a huge disclaimer on the lack of wireless for the "cyberneedy".

Carry on... Best of Luck :mrgreen:

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Apr 26, 2014 15:47:14   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Kuzano wrote:
By shooting RAW, you have more of the original data to be lost to the LWDT method (Lost Wireless Data Transfer). You can initiate a check-sum method to check all the bytes after the "sweep and load" process to see if you got them all into the final image.

You will improve your process if you DO NOT combine JPEG image files with the LWDT system. Shoot RAW.

Almost everybody on the UHH will surely tell you that shooting anything other than RAW is simply Insane and Moronic. I have to admit that when you experience LDWT they may be right. (Wait... change that first sentence from "Almost everybody on the UHH" to "Everybody on the UHH".)
By shooting RAW, you have more of the original dat... (show quote)

It really surprises me that the images would be transferred with the possibility of loss. I would expect that the transfer protocol would automatically do the check-sum method to ensure that all the packets were received accurately, and the transferred file would be identical to the file on the card.

You should have stuck with "almost everybody". I do not fit in the "everybody" category. :-)

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Apr 26, 2014 16:00:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yeah, I've found that "Wi-Fi" can be a misleading term, since it can mean different things on different cameras. Eventually, they will all have that feature, and it will do everything. For now, we have Eye-Fi cards. I use them in all my cameras, and I've been spoiled. When I come back to the computer after shooting, I see that the images have already started uploading.


I have to say I'm spoiled too...go to the back yard...take some shots of the BBQ and doggie fun...and when I sit down to the laptop...they are already in Lightroom.

Nice :)

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Apr 26, 2014 16:03:21   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
amehta wrote:
It really surprises me that the images would be transferred with the possibility of loss. I would expect that the transfer protocol would automatically do the check-sum method to ensure that all the packets were received accurately, and the transferred file would be identical to the file on the card.

You should have stuck with "almost everybody". I do not fit in the "everybody" category. :-)


I have no idea what that poster said but there is no loss of data when transferring wirelessly.

Not sure if it was an attempt at a joke or not.

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