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Apr 19, 2014 07:34:16   #
sye Loc: The Old Dominion Near DC
 
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to become the UN Envoy.

I'm wondering if there is a statute of limitations for kidnapping? He has confessed that he supported the American Embassy takeover in Tehran with translation services.

The US govt wants to ban him from entering the US and has refused to recognize his position if he does come to the UN.

I wonder if we can arrest his ass when he lands at JFK International or any other US airport.

I hear that there are vacancies at Gitmo. It's cheaper than anyplace in NYC.

Of course this is just wild imagination because the incumbent will probably change his mind and invite the AH to the White House for a welcoming ceremony and dinner "in the name of international friendship."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-blocks-irans-pick-as-envoy-to-un-setting-up-new-confrontation/2014/04/11/d1c20aca-c19f-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html

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Apr 19, 2014 15:30:39   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
I don't think they really have a leg to stand on - after all, the POTUS ordered drone strikes on 4 US citizens resulting in all 4 dead - based on an assumption - admitted to it on national television and is still sitting in office...
Seems to me the precedence for illegal activities and forgiveness has been set...

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Apr 20, 2014 06:33:21   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
sye wrote:
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to become the UN Envoy.

I'm wondering if there is a statute of limitations for kidnapping? He has confessed that he supported the American Embassy takeover in Tehran with translation services.

The US govt wants to ban him from entering the US and has refused to recognize his position if he does come to the UN.

I wonder if we can arrest his ass when he lands at JFK International or any other US airport.

I hear that there are vacancies at Gitmo. It's cheaper than anyplace in NYC.

Of course this is just wild imagination because the incumbent will probably change his mind and invite the AH to the White House for a welcoming ceremony and dinner "in the name of international friendship."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-blocks-irans-pick-as-envoy-to-un-setting-up-new-confrontation/2014/04/11/d1c20aca-c19f-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to bec... (show quote)


The US has a perfect right to refuse a ViSA for anyone connected to the Iran Hostage crisis. Although there's no evidence that he was threatening any Embassy employees, he was a member of the group who stormed the Embassy and held employees hostage and therefore can be classified as an "UNDESIRABLE" and "US SECURITY RISK".
Just because he claims to have been only a translator, this is no excuse for his actions in support of the hostage takers.
UN Diplomats are free to roam our streets and have diplomatic immunity. He doesn't live on UN grounds or on Iranian territory at the embassy and his residence and vehicles are also considered to be Iranian territory and therefore off limits for US law enforcement agencies.

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Apr 20, 2014 08:35:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sye wrote:
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to become the UN Envoy.

I'm wondering if there is a statute of limitations for kidnapping? He has confessed that he supported the American Embassy takeover in Tehran with translation services.

The US govt wants to ban him from entering the US and has refused to recognize his position if he does come to the UN.

I wonder if we can arrest his ass when he lands at JFK International or any other US airport.

I hear that there are vacancies at Gitmo. It's cheaper than anyplace in NYC.

Of course this is just wild imagination because the incumbent will probably change his mind and invite the AH to the White House for a welcoming ceremony and dinner "in the name of international friendship."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-blocks-irans-pick-as-envoy-to-un-setting-up-new-confrontation/2014/04/11/d1c20aca-c19f-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to bec... (show quote)

Diplomatic immunity.

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Apr 20, 2014 11:05:12   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
sye wrote:
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to become the UN Envoy.

I'm wondering if there is a statute of limitations for kidnapping? He has confessed that he supported the American Embassy takeover in Tehran with translation services.

The US govt wants to ban him from entering the US and has refused to recognize his position if he does come to the UN.

I wonder if we can arrest his ass when he lands at JFK International or any other US airport.

I hear that there are vacancies at Gitmo. It's cheaper than anyplace in NYC.

Of course this is just wild imagination because the incumbent will probably change his mind and invite the AH to the White House for a welcoming ceremony and dinner "in the name of international friendship."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-blocks-irans-pick-as-envoy-to-un-setting-up-new-confrontation/2014/04/11/d1c20aca-c19f-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html
Interesting article on an Iranian who wants to bec... (show quote)


Arrest his ass? Are you crazy? This administration won't even arrest people who killed 4 Americans at Bengazi in Libya and some of those people are known to our powers that be.

Dennis

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Apr 20, 2014 11:13:47   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Diplomatic immunity.

Diplomatic immunity if his credentials are accepted.

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Apr 20, 2014 11:20:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
RMM wrote:
Diplomatic immunity if his credentials are accepted.

If not, then he shouldn't even be allowed in.

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Apr 20, 2014 11:30:20   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If not, then he shouldn't even be allowed in.


If he's classified as "HOSTILE" or "POSSIBLE SECURITY THREAT", then the State Department has perfect right to refuse allowing his entrance to the USA or issuing him a VISA.

He's already admitted to being a member of the group that stormed the US Embassy in Iran, so therefore he's proven his position. We can't arrest him if he's a diplomat, but we sure can refuse his access into the country and return him to IRAN if he comes to a US airport.

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Apr 20, 2014 11:40:50   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
If he were being posted as a diplomatic representative to the US, there's no question that he could be rejected. The only question in my mind is whether a case can be made that he is a diplomatic representative to the UN, not the US. While the UN and the Iranian mission are extraterritorial and outside US control, our airports, seaports and New York City and surroundings aren't.

Anyone know the relevant law here?

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Apr 20, 2014 11:55:27   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
RMM wrote:
If he were being posted as a diplomatic representative to the US, there's no question that he could be rejected. The only question in my mind is whether a case can be made that he is a diplomatic representative to the UN, not the US. While the UN and the Iranian mission are extraterritorial and outside US control, our airports, seaports and New York City and surroundings aren't.

Anyone know the relevant law here?


He still needs a VISA to enter the USA. There's no way to get to the UN or the Iranian Mission or Consulate without first passing US Immigration at the airports. Without approval by the US Department of State and having a valid VISA (even if only a temporary one like Muammar al Gaddafi had when he spoke at the UN), he can't enter the US, even if he is a Diplomat representing his country.

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Apr 20, 2014 12:07:09   #
leej
 
you can't arrest just part of a body or maybe you are referring to the animal he is riding. in that case I'm pretty sure you can't. take it into custody maybe, but no charges

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Apr 20, 2014 18:45:39   #
uppics Loc: rockford, il, usa
 
Shellback wrote:
I don't think they really have a leg to stand on - after all, the POTUS ordered drone strikes on 4 US citizens resulting in all 4 dead - based on an assumption - admitted to it on national television and is still sitting in office...
Seems to me the precedence for illegal activities and forgiveness has been set...


you know, i hate the president, and i take every opportunity to express my hatred toward him, his wife and his dog. i am ambivalent toward the girls, as they can not change their f'ed up parents. although i stand by my statement, i agree w/ his killing of american terrorists overseas who think it proper to kill innocent americans. the more drone strikes the better. drone strikes have saved countless american lives.

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Apr 20, 2014 19:34:06   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Shellback wrote:
I don't think they really have a leg to stand on - after all, the POTUS ordered drone strikes on 4 US citizens resulting in all 4 dead - based on an assumption - admitted to it on national television and is still sitting in office...
Seems to me the precedence for illegal activities and forgiveness has been set...


Shellback,
Those 4 American citizens were plotting terror activities with other members of Al Qaeda and this activity makes them enemy combatants which constitutes a violation of their citizenship.
In cases like this, there probably should have been a hearing in a Federal Court which revoked their citizenship before the drone strikes though.

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Apr 20, 2014 20:10:27   #
uppics Loc: rockford, il, usa
 
singleviking wrote:
Shellback,
Those 4 American citizens were plotting terror activities with other members of Al Qaeda and this activity makes them enemy combatants which constitutes a violation of their citizenship.
In cases like this, there probably should have been a hearing in a Federal Court which revoked their citizenship before the drone strikes though.

to hell w/ a hearing. given that line of thinking, osama would still be waiting several years for his hearing; instead, osama got his "hearing." it was quick and, from what i hear, deadly. everyone wants their rights protected. someone wantonly kills more than 3,000 innocent americans does not deserve a hearing. those four terrorists did not deserve a hearing, as they plotted against americans. take your liberal spin and email harry or nancy or barbara or barak or jesse or al or any number of others.

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Apr 20, 2014 20:18:35   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
uppics wrote:
to hell w/ a hearing. given that line of thinking, osama would still be waiting several years for his hearing; instead, osama got his "hearing." it was quick and, from what i hear, deadly. everyone wants their rights protected. someone wantonly kills more than 3,000 innocent americans does not deserve a hearing. those four terrorists did not deserve a hearing, as they plotted against americans. take your liberal spin and email harry or nancy or barbara or barak or jesse or al or any number of others.
to hell w/ a hearing. given that line of thinking... (show quote)


Osama was not a US citizen, you fool. All US citizens have the right to free speech and association, but when they plot against the US government or it's citizens, they should lose all rights of citizenship, but legally through a court before hostile action can be undertaken.
The office of POTUS has the right to PARDON criminals but does not have the right to execute US citizens without proper procedure and legal representation unless they do hostile action or demonstrate a firearm or weapon with the intent of doing harm and are classified as "A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER".
Osama had no rights under the US constitution when he was not standing on US owned territory. Even foreigners and non-citizens have constitutional rights when they are on US soil.

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