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What is today's Cibachrome (Ilfachrome)?
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Apr 3, 2014 12:34:20   #
tomw
 
We used to think that the pinnacle of color photography printing was a Cibachrome print from a quality slide.

What is today's equivalent? For archival purposes and for image quality.

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Apr 3, 2014 13:59:54   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
tomw wrote:
...What is today's equivalent? For archival purposes and for image quality.


it was too good

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Apr 3, 2014 20:21:29   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
oldtigger wrote:
it was too good


all these poor slobs can do now is drum-scan. touch up, rephotograph, digitize, butcher in PP and throw some ink on a glossy chunk of paper,

The days of good prints ended in the 70's.

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Apr 4, 2014 08:29:11   #
aaciolkowski Loc: Sugar Grove Illinois
 
There isn't any

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Apr 4, 2014 08:34:43   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
tomw wrote:
We used to think that the pinnacle of color photography printing was a Cibachrome print from a quality slide.

What is today's equivalent? For archival purposes and for image quality.


trimming 20" sheets to 8x10 and running them through the view camera yielded prints of flowers you good touch and smell.

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Apr 4, 2014 08:42:34   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
oldtigger wrote:
trimming 20" sheets to 8x10 and running them through the view camera yielded prints of flowers you good touch and smell.


Just the mention of Cibachrome makes me smell the chemicals again. It wasn't an unpleasant odor. Great stuff.

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Apr 4, 2014 08:59:10   #
scottlanes Loc: Salem, MA
 
Ciba's were great, I loved the metalic nature of them. The stink was really nasty though. Were they really archival?

I have seen metalic inkjet prints that come pretty close

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Apr 4, 2014 09:34:16   #
rubble43 Loc: Oyster Bay, Long Island NY
 
I have several Cibachrome prints that I made in 1982. The colors are as bright as ever. The material was very contrasty; especially if printing from Kodachrome.

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Apr 4, 2014 09:45:41   #
scottlanes Loc: Salem, MA
 
rubble43 wrote:
The material was very contrasty; especially if printing from Kodachrome.


yeah thats sure true, talk about a deep black lol. Printing those was like shooting chromes, a very fine line between deep and muddy lol

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Apr 4, 2014 09:48:52   #
blacks2 Loc: SF. Bay area
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Just the mention of Cibachrome makes me smell the chemicals again. It wasn't an unpleasant odor. Great stuff.


LOL. My wife made me change cloth in the darkroom so not to carry the awful smell into the living quarters. Still have prints on Cibachrome which look like when they were made.

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Apr 4, 2014 09:54:39   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
rubble43 wrote:
.... The material was very contrasty; especially if printing from Kodachrome.


i usually carried a roll or two of fujichrome if i knew i wouldn't want the contrast and saturation of a kodachrome.

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Apr 4, 2014 11:04:27   #
Alois
 
Nothing. I have few prints on my wall that are over 30 years old and still look as good as the first day.

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Apr 4, 2014 11:23:20   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I was actually hoping someone could just toss out an answer that has escaped me for years. Looks like we are all doomed to the "progress" of technology. Some things can just never be matched.

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Apr 4, 2014 11:40:45   #
Doyle Thomas Loc: Vancouver Washington ~ USA
 
I know one guy still making Ilfochromes, Chris Burkett. he bought up and froze all the materials he could find when Ilfo announced the discontinue.

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Apr 4, 2014 15:51:42   #
orvisk
 
There is no digital format that equals a genuine cibachrome print; they are simply stunning.

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