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Apr 2, 2014 17:40:46   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
oldtigger wrote:
we aren't throwing away anything but the distorted vignetted parts you full framers keep.

You have both! :lol:

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Apr 2, 2014 17:58:36   #
RicknJude Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
oldtigger wrote:
we aren't throwing away anything but the distorted vignetted parts you full framers keep.


:lol:

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Apr 2, 2014 18:59:50   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
oldtigger wrote:
we aren't throwing away anything but the distorted vignetted parts you full framers keep.


Now that you mention it, I don't see much of either in the ff photo. To my (uneducated) eye, that lens does a nice job. Glad I got it. May have to get a 50mm at some point.

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Apr 2, 2014 19:25:47   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Not being as familiar with the canon and nikon lens lineup, do they make a cropped lens as wide as the widest ff lens? For instance the widest Olympus lens is the 7-14mm (14-24 equiv).

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Apr 2, 2014 19:49:35   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Not being as familiar with the canon and nikon lens lineup, do they make a cropped lens as wide as the widest ff lens? For instance the widest Olympus lens is the 7-14mm (14-24 equiv).


Good question. According to the Canon site:
The EF-S 10-22mm for cropped sensor has a viewing angle just over 107 degrees at 10mm.
The EF 16-35mm L for full frame has a viewing angle just over 108 degrees at 16mm, followed closely by the EF 17-40mm L at 104 degrees at 17mm.
Canon lists all three as ultra-wide angle.
So, I guess the answer would be yes.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:00:25   #
Robert R Loc: Indianapolis and Naples
 
Thanks for posting the two photos comparing full vs cropped sensor. For us amateurs that is worth a lot of words trying to explain the difference. I currently use Canon 70 D and T4i. Thanks

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Apr 2, 2014 20:08:00   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Robert R wrote:
Thanks for posting the two photos comparing full vs cropped sensor. For us amateurs that is worth a lot of words trying to explain the difference.


You are quite welcome. I'm not as much of an amateur as I was when I joined the Hog, but I still have a big red "A" (Canon red, of course) on my forehead. I have learned more about photography in the past four months here on the Hog then in the previous forty-some years.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:15:02   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
LFingar wrote:
Now that you mention it, I don't see much of either in the ff photo. ....


the picture i posted showing the frame was made by pasting the cropped image into the full frame.

Since it was the central portion from the same lens, they lined up well. A 35 lens is an easy design and usually pretty clean.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:50:44   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Not being as familiar with the canon and nikon lens lineup, do they make a cropped lens as wide as the widest ff lens? For instance the widest Olympus lens is the 7-14mm (14-24 equiv).

In ultrawides?
Canon 10-22 (16-35.2)
Nikon 10-24 (15-36)

I assume you are not asking about fisheyes?

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Apr 2, 2014 21:00:59   #
RegisG Loc: Mid-Tennessee
 
Besides the obvious larger framed photo, what difference do you (or anyone) see in the photo quality (color, clarity, depth, etc.). Help me understand and see the difference between the 2 cameras beyond size.

Thanks,
RegisG

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Apr 2, 2014 21:21:47   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
lighthouse wrote:
In ultrawides?
Canon 10-22 (16-35.2)
Nikon 10-24 (15-36)

I assume you are not asking about fisheyes?


Correct UWA

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Apr 2, 2014 21:24:11   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
RegisG wrote:
Besides the obvious larger framed photo, what difference do you (or anyone) see in the photo quality (color, clarity, depth, etc.). Help me understand and see the difference between the 2 cameras beyond size.

Thanks,
RegisG


that was the reason i pasted one picture within the other.
With the exception of some discontinuities along my lower frame line in limb placement due to wind i cannot see any difference in the two pictures and almost accused you of showing us one image and its crop. (accidentally of course)

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Apr 2, 2014 21:39:13   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
oldtigger wrote:
that was the reason i pasted one picture within the other.
With the exception of some discontinuities along my lower frame line in limb placement due to wind i cannot see any difference in the two pictures and almost accused you of showing us one image and its crop. (accidentally of course)


LOL thats funny, I saw the opposite when I went to draw the lines.
I saw that he had shifted position a little to the right probably and maybe a fraction lower with the crop shot.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:59:49   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I think this illustration really shows it. The circle is actually what the lens projects. The large rectangle is the fx sensor, the small rectangle is the dx sensor.

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Apr 3, 2014 01:04:16   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
LFingar wrote:
Thank You both! I never dreamed that there is that much difference between the two.


Not surprised. Remember that a 35mm focal length on a crop body like the 70D gives you a FF equivalent angle of view of 56mm.

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