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Mar 23, 2014 17:54:25   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
bcheary wrote:
I have said it before, the only way to beat Putin is by economics. Isolate Russia economically and they will come to terms. Our president, unfortunately has a complete lack of knowledge about international economics and surrounds himself with sycophantic idiots that are not much better. Open up the keystone pipeline and expand our natural gas supply structure so that we can help out Europe if Putin turns off his spigots. Russia's economy is based on oil and gas. If they lose that income they will be in deep doo doo.
I have said it before, the only way to beat Putin ... (show quote)


What did Bush do when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. Any cartoons on that ?

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Mar 23, 2014 18:05:31   #
papayanirvana Loc: Kauai
 
KW Conch wrote:
What did Bush do when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. Any cartoons on that ?


You know what...I may be the only one to think this, but I believe Putin will stop at Crimea. (Not that he wouldn't like to take all of eastern Europe.) Here's why. Crimea should have been with Russia in the first place, this is just a little border re-structuring (extremely painful to the Crimeans, though).

Russia's economy is already in the toilet... they will have sanctions and will need to pump in additional money to Crimea (~$3bn/year vs 2 with Ukraine) they are looking at a BAD year or two.

Ukraine is still supplying power to Crimea, so Russia has to stay on good terms with them at least until Russia builds up the Crimean infrastructure.

Putin is a cold, cunning, calculating man... what Russia gains (as mentioned earlier) is a warm water port.

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Mar 23, 2014 18:11:46   #
SBW
 
KW Conch wrote:
What did Bush do when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. Any cartoons on that ?


You want some cartoons about the past? I will send you some about Hitler. You should really identify.

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Mar 23, 2014 18:21:36   #
papayanirvana Loc: Kauai
 







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Mar 23, 2014 18:22:25   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
papayanirvana wrote:
You know what...I may be the only one to think this, but I believe Putin will stop at Crimea. (Not that he wouldn't like to take all of eastern Europe.) Here's why. Crimea should have been with Russia in the first place, this is just a little border re-structuring (extremely painful to the Crimeans, though).


I think you are correct about Putin stopping at Crimea. Besides, Crimea serves an important strategic point for Russia in the Black Sea region. I strongly doubt Putin is interested in marching into the rest of Ukraine, and the potential headaches an occupation would bring. Although I'm not so sure about it being particularly painful to the Crimeans... the great majority of them seem to be quite content with what has happened.

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Mar 23, 2014 18:31:44   #
papayanirvana Loc: Kauai
 
http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/cartoon_550/images/34273.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/d/E/2/russia-react-tmdho080813.jpg
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/226/f/0/Russia_Georgia_conflict_5_by_Latuff2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/txmed/georgia.jpg
http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dont-mess-with-the-bear.jpg

the more things change...

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Mar 23, 2014 18:35:22   #
papayanirvana Loc: Kauai
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I think you are correct about Putin stopping at Crimea. Besides, Crimea serves an important strategic point for Russia in the Black Sea region. I strongly doubt Putin is interested in marching into the rest of Ukraine, and the potential headaches an occupation would bring. Although I'm not so sure about it being particularly painful to the Crimeans... the great majority of them seem to be quite content with what has happened.


Plus, the Ukraine will move towards the west and I guess they just signed a deal that is the first step towards joining the EU.

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Mar 23, 2014 18:54:05   #
JaiGieEse Loc: Foxworth, MS
 
papayanirvana wrote:
OH? in that case, "Wake up, grow up, or shut up."


Replying in a mature way is simply beyond you, isn't it?

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Mar 23, 2014 19:07:14   #
TeeKay
 
It is all the fault of the expansionist EU.

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Mar 23, 2014 19:21:51   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 


Not bad but the numbers of his cartoon characterizations will never catch up to Ubummer's which will keep generating until he is long out of office. :-D

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Mar 23, 2014 19:42:59   #
lARRY1 Loc: southern nc
 
No,your wrong. Only about 25 to 30 % support russia in crimea.

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Mar 23, 2014 19:44:13   #
papayanirvana Loc: Kauai
 
bcheary wrote:
Not bad but the numbers of his cartoon characterizations will never catch up to Ubummer's which will keep generating until he is long out of office. :-D
are you kidding? Obama will probably be in the top 5, along with Carter, Ford and Nixon... but Bush was by far the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhmdEq3JhoY

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Mar 23, 2014 19:45:44   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
papayanirvana wrote:
are you kidding? Obama will probably be in the top 5, along with Carter, Ford and Nixon... but Bush was by far the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhmdEq3JhoY


Nah. Give me the numbers. :-D

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Mar 23, 2014 21:26:17   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
bcheary wrote:
More fodder from the cartoonists. With Obummer for a subject they just can't miss. :lol: :lol:
Never have we had a president so devoid in international affairs, economics and managerial experience. :cry:


Let's start saying what it looks like and watch their hair catch afire. "If you like Putin better than POTUS you must be a communist!"

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Mar 23, 2014 21:55:29   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
wlgoode wrote:
Let's start saying what it looks like and watch their hair catch afire. "If you like Putin better than POTUS you must be a communist!"


:lol: :lol:

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