Advantage cropped or full frame sensor for macro??
Dec 16, 2014 02:58:10 #
oldtigger wrote:
I will have my observations to input, as soon as I can find a minute to compare my D7100 to the D800E. I have only taken about a half dozen with the 800, so far and it does "seem" like there's some difference. I suspect the 7100 will be designated for itty-bitties and the 800 for larger subjects. I am very eager to compare the two.Its been 8 months, anyone have any input on this question?
Dec 17, 2014 00:32:26 #
Flyextreme wrote:
Compare this post shot with my 5D Mark II full frame: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-253014-1.htmlI will have my observations to input, as soon as I can find a minute to compare my D7100 to the D800E. I have only taken about a half dozen with the 800, so far and it does "seem" like there's some difference. I suspect the 7100 will be designated for itty-bitties and the 800 for larger subjects. I am very eager to compare the two.
To this post shot with my 7D Crop. I just could not get the crop to come in sharp no matter how hard I tried with the same 100mm lens: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-252379-1.html
Apples to oranges but for me the difference was amazingly clear. (pardon the pun.)
I use the full frame for macros and the crop for sports now.
Dec 17, 2014 15:05:56 #
Albuqshutterbug wrote:
The D7000, tokina 100mm lens and Diffused Speedlight is extremely sharp when used properly. I missed the focus on the outside edge of the eye, but the rest is very nice for such a small subject and I'm not on the perfect focal plane as well. Just one of thousands I've taken. I'm sold on FF as well but not for lack of sharpness from my crop sensor camera. Proper Lighting is More important than camera or lensCompare this post shot with my 5D Mark II full frame: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-253014-1.html
To this post shot with my 7D Crop. I just could not get the crop to come in sharp no matter how hard I tried with the same 100mm lens: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-252379-1.html
Apples to oranges but for me the difference was amazingly clear. (pardon the pun.)
I use the full frame for macros and the crop for sports now.
To this post shot with my 7D Crop. I just could not get the crop to come in sharp no matter how hard I tried with the same 100mm lens: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-252379-1.html
Apples to oranges but for me the difference was amazingly clear. (pardon the pun.)
I use the full frame for macros and the crop for sports now.
Dec 17, 2014 16:20:13 #
fstop22 wrote:
more and more i'm getting the impression the contrast range is critical in obtaining a sharp stack.The D7000, tokina 100mm lens and Diffused Speedlight is extremely sharp when used properly. ... I'm sold on FF as well but not for lack of sharpness from my crop sensor camera. Proper Lighting is More important than camera or lens
Dec 17, 2014 18:29:05 #
oldtigger wrote:
I'm a lazy type of guy when it comes to certain things. I have yet wrapped the inside of my tubes with any thing to dampen the light traveling back into the lens and sensor. When I photograph against reflective materials like buildings, sun light leaves ect.. I get a very contrasty photo. If I had the room I would use lens hood to help. Not sure in your set up but make sure you don't have light traveling back on your lens. On another note using the Nik software I use the contrast control slide on all of my finished photos, my best friend to bring out the detail, but I use it selectively and at different levels for different parts of the photo.. To much and it robs detail, just right and it brings it forward, also darkening/selectively/ Just a hair will often bring detail forward as well. I still do not use sharpening only contrast control.more and more i'm getting the impression the contrast range is critical in obtaining a sharp stack.
Dec 21, 2014 13:05:27 #
I managed only a few quick shots to compare the DX (D7100) to the full frame FX D800E. I shot mirror up (live view) and used the remote on the 7100 but, couldn't do so with the 800. I took a few shots with and without the Raynox250. I also shot only jpeg fine, neutral, and with no PP at all so, these are SooC. I think these are slightly under exposed. I also could have used more light on the subject so I could see what I was doing. Both cameras settings were: ISO 200, 1/200-sec at f/16
I used these butterfly wings because they're not flat and at least some part of them should be in focus, no matter if "I" don't get the focus just right. Scan around the image on download to examine. I'm not certain I see much difference under these conditions which is what I suspected. I think as time goes on, close cropping and various subjects will tell more.
I used these butterfly wings because they're not flat and at least some part of them should be in focus, no matter if "I" don't get the focus just right. Scan around the image on download to examine. I'm not certain I see much difference under these conditions which is what I suspected. I think as time goes on, close cropping and various subjects will tell more.
D800e/Sigma150
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D800e/Sigma150/Raynox-250
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D7100/Sigma150
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D7100/Sigma150/Raynox-250
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Dec 23, 2014 15:45:23 #
I wouldn't expect much difference in IQ between the 7100 and the 800e and say the 7100 versus the 610. Pixel size and density of the 800 falls midway between the other two sensors:
All that noted, the 800e at higher magnifications, might resolve more details due to the lack of an AA filter.
Camera: 7100 800e 610
Pixel Pitch: 3.90 4.87 5.95
Pixel Density: 6.59 4.22 2.83
(mp/cm2)
All that noted, the 800e at higher magnifications, might resolve more details due to the lack of an AA filter.
Dec 23, 2014 16:04:06 #
A-PeeR wrote:
not sure how you arrive at pixel pitch.Camera: 7100 800e 610
Pixel Pitch: 3.90 4.87 5.95
Pixel Density: 6.59 4.22 2.83
(mp/cm2)
I'll say two 'hail marys' and an 'our father' for you if you can come up with a column for the canon 70D.
Pretty please?
Dec 23, 2014 16:41:34 #
Dec 23, 2014 17:51:01 #
Looks Like the D610 has the largest Pixel size, is this better?? More info per pixel, better resolution
Dec 23, 2014 18:40:42 #
fstop22 wrote:
Not better, just different. Larger pixel size collects more light, a larger sampling if you will. Like a bucket in the rain versus a cup. Smaller pixel size resolves finer details. At 1:1 I don't think we can see it but at say 20x I believe we can. Running stacks with my Olympus E-M1 at 20x versus my 5D-III, I believe I can see a difference in resolvable detail. Nothing scientific mind you, just the old eyeball verification.Looks Like the D610 has the largest Pixel size, is this better?? More info per pixel, better resolution?
Dec 23, 2014 18:41:38 #
A-PeeR wrote:
The D7100 also does not have the AA filterAll that noted, the 800e at higher magnifications, might resolve more details due to the lack of an AA filter.
Dec 23, 2014 18:45:11 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Forgot about that.The D7100 also does not have the AA filter
Dec 23, 2014 19:08:08 #
anyone else have the feeling longer lenses couple better with the high density sensors?
Dec 23, 2014 20:18:05 #
oldtigger wrote:
An interesting thought and first thing that comes to mind is it would seem so. Have to do some research on that.anyone else have the feeling longer lenses couple better with the high density sensors?
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