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Feb 23, 2014 19:22:17   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
I have been ask by my church to take some team photos for their school basketball team. They also wanted to know if I would also do individual photos of each of the team members. They are willing to pay for the extra photos. I will donate the team photos but will add extra if they want individual photos. Now how much?
Question 2 is where can I see types of photos taken for people in sports. I need ideas. I am thinking of $7.00 for a disk containing the team photo as well as 3 or 4 poses of each member. Too much or too little?

Thanks everybody.

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Feb 23, 2014 19:40:27   #
geclevel Loc: Springville, Utah
 
Don't give away your photos. Go to a quality print lab like WHCC.com and order the prints for the parents. At a minimum sell them the prints for triple the price of the cost of the print. If you give your discs away ensure the photos DPI is 72 for viewing on a computer only.
Find a generic pose for everyone. An example would be at half court with them holding the ball under one arm and get a blurred hoop in the background. This will make it easy to cycle through the team for individual shots.

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Feb 23, 2014 20:07:01   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
geclevel wrote:
Don't give away your photos. Go to a quality print lab like WHCC.com and order the prints for the parents. At a minimum sell them the prints for triple the price of the cost of the print. If you give your discs away ensure the photos DPI is 72 for viewing on a computer only.
Find a generic pose for everyone. An example would be at half court with them holding the ball under one arm and get a blurred hoop in the background. This will make it easy to cycle through the team for individual shots.
Don't give away your photos. Go to a quality print... (show quote)


Hummmm thank you. I'll check out WHCC.

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Feb 23, 2014 20:29:02   #
PeterM Loc: Scio, NY
 
Probably the best and most efficient way to go is to have a flat fee for 1 enlargement and individual shot for all athletes present. I'm thinking of around $100 paid by the booster club or sponsor. You could then deliver photos (discs) to the booster club and they could decide to sell or give them to the athletes.

I don't recommend selling to each and every parent - sounds easy, but its not. I don't recommend selling the disc for $7, since it can easily be duplicated.

Lastly, don't underestimate the value of your work. $100 is about right and if you charge less, they won't value your work.

PS 1) use off-camera fill flash 2) some print services offer enlargement/individual combos with sport theme.

I hope that this is helpful. - Peter

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Feb 23, 2014 21:37:47   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
geclevel wrote:
Don't give away your photos. Go to a quality print lab like WHCC.com and order the prints for the parents. At a minimum sell them the prints for triple the price of the cost of the print. If you give your discs away ensure the photos DPI is 72 for viewing on a computer only.
Find a generic pose for everyone. An example would be at half court with them holding the ball under one arm and get a blurred hoop in the background. This will make it easy to cycle through the team for individual shots.
Don't give away your photos. Go to a quality print... (show quote)


I know we have been over this, but the 72PPI (not dpi) is meaningless. All that matters is the total pixel dimension. If you send out a 2000x3000 image, it matters not WHAT you set the PPI to - they can make a great 5x7 and 8x10, and a nice 11x14. Send out something that is 500 pixels on the long side and there is not much anyone can do except see it on a screen.

It is an internet myth that will never die. Look at an Apple Retina display and think how 72PPI has anything to do with computer display.

Now it is true that if you go into Image Size with Resample checked that entering 72 in the PPI box will reduce the pixel dimension and if the image is not too large to begin that you will make a small file. The point is to realize that it IS JUST that pixel dimension that counts. Take a D800 image and just make it 72PPI and you still have a large file!

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Feb 23, 2014 21:56:18   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
PeterM wrote:
Probably the best and most efficient way to go is to have a flat fee for 1 enlargement and individual shot for all athletes present. I'm thinking of around $100 paid by the booster club or sponsor. You could then deliver photos (discs) to the booster club and they could decide to sell or give them to the athletes.

I don't recommend selling to each and every parent - sounds easy, but its not. I don't recommend selling the disc for $7, since it can easily be duplicated.

Lastly, don't underestimate the value of your work. $100 is about right and if you charge less, they won't value your work.

PS 1) use off-camera fill flash 2) some print services offer enlargement/individual combos with sport theme.

I hope that this is helpful. - Peter
Probably the best and most efficient way to go is ... (show quote)

I didn't know about the sport theme. You mean if I send them a picture of a basketball player they'll print them with a sport theme background? Right now the best I can do is bleachers or a shot with the hoop in the back. Maybe!

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Feb 24, 2014 08:58:25   #
PeterM Loc: Scio, NY
 
tita1948 wrote:
I didn't know about the sport theme. You mean if I send them a picture of a basketball player they'll print them with a sport theme background? Right now the best I can do is bleachers or a shot with the hoop in the back. Maybe!


I hope that you found the rest of my comment helpful.

I'm not sure how you produce your prints so here are two options for sports backgrounds:
- Register and use Walgreens online photo service. You download your files, select sizes, and select backgrounds - they have various sports backgrounds. You can then pick up prints at Walgreens for 8x10 or smaller. I would use this service - price & quality is good.
- If you print your own, sports templates are available for download. This might be more time-consuming and costly.

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Feb 24, 2014 09:36:50   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
In our area, Costco does a better job with prints than competition with the exception of the few photo labs that remain.
I think $7 is a bit low. Suggest checking competition in the area. Should be ready enough to look on web sites.

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Feb 24, 2014 12:07:55   #
Grannysweet Loc: Sikeston, MO
 
I took photos all summer of the grandkids softball teams games and tournaments. At the end of summer I made a disc with pictures set to music and gave it to each kid on the team. A lot of time and effort was involved cropping, and working on each photo to make it nice. I got not one thank you from any of the parents. Also we had a family reunion and I spent nights and nights scanning old family photos, put names on them and correcting scratches and flaws. I made multiple discs for everyone. Again, not one thank you. Will not go out of my way to ever do it again for free. If you charge enough to make yourself some profit I think they will appreciate your work more. In any event, you will not have wasted your time.

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Feb 24, 2014 12:23:57   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
Grannysweet wrote:
I took photos all summer of the grandkids softball teams games and tournaments. At the end of summer I made a disc with pictures set to music and gave it to each kid on the team. A lot of time and effort was involved cropping, and working on each photo to make it nice. I got not one thank you from any of the parents. Also we had a family reunion and I spent nights and nights scanning old family photos, put names on them and correcting scratches and flaws. I made multiple discs for everyone. Again, not one thank you. Will not go out of my way to ever do it again for free. If you charge enough to make yourself some profit I think they will appreciate your work more. In any event, you will not have wasted your time.
I took photos all summer of the grandkids softball... (show quote)



Wow sorry to hear about all the work you did without any appreciation. I find that people think that if you already have a camera then it doesn't cost you anything. I get asked to do freebee's all the time. Sometime I do like for a dear friend or for my church. But I really limit this when I can. For this shoot I plan on doing both. One free, (team photo) the rest they will have to pay. We'll see how this works.

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Feb 24, 2014 13:30:49   #
PeterM Loc: Scio, NY
 
PeterM wrote:
Probably the best and most efficient way to go is to have a flat fee for 1 enlargement and individual shot for all athletes present. I'm thinking of around $100 paid by the booster club or sponsor. You could then deliver photos (discs) to the booster club and they could decide to sell or give them to the athletes.

I don't recommend selling to each and every parent - sounds easy, but its not. I don't recommend selling the disc for $7, since it can easily be duplicated.


.... I thought I gave some good advice...

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Feb 24, 2014 15:24:59   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
PeterM wrote:
.... I thought I gave some good advice...


Yes you did. Thank you.

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