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Auto-bracketing exposure for HDR
Feb 1, 2014 17:09:56   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
I have a quick question... I guess I need to dig into the manual, but I couldn't find any more details on this the last time.

On the T4i, to shoot for HDR, you have to set the amount of 'variation' in the exposure, then take the shots manually.
I tried taking 3 individual shots, which the book says will automatically be exposed with the exposure offsets selected. They weren't. They were all exposed the same.
Now, if I set it to continuous shooting, it takes 6 shots. I thought maybe it was spreading exposures between the compensation figures I had selected, but it didn't. It shot 2 sets of 3 identical shots. I mean, it did the exposure compensations correctly, as I was expecting, for 3 exposures. Then it repeats the same 3 shots again.

I fail to see the reason for this. I mean, 'film' is cheap, but it just seems a waste to repeat an identical set of 3 each time.

I just downloaded them, but haven't yet imported into LR. I would imagine that LR will ignore them as being duplicates, but the import process does not seem to work the way I would expect. For example, I download the original CR2 files into my 'safe' area. Then, if I tell the program to copy them into my 'working' folder, and convert them to dng files on the way, it copies them *twice*.

I guess this became 2 quick questions... :-D

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Feb 2, 2014 06:15:39   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
check your manual again. does your camera have a hdr setting? check and see if you had the camera set for "auto bracketing" or just " continuous shooting". if the latter, then they all will be exposed the same.

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Feb 2, 2014 06:41:01   #
Mallardo Loc: NW Louisiana
 
http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/8201546500.html

Bloke, I shoot a 7D so I'm not familiar with the menus/ options of the T4i. However, I did find the above link which shows how to set Auto Exposure Bracketing on your camera. Hope it helps.

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Feb 2, 2014 08:07:03   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
bull drink water wrote:
check your manual again. does your camera have a hdr setting? check and see if you had the camera set for "auto bracketing" or just " continuous shooting". if the latter, then they all will be exposed the same.


I don't want to do in-camera hdr. I had it set to do auto-bracketing, *and* continuous shooting. According to the book I was reading last night, continuous shooting will do anything from 2 to 10 shots for each press of the shutter, but it didn't give any clue as to where this number would be set...

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Feb 2, 2014 08:10:24   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Mallardo wrote:
http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/8201546500.html

Bloke, I shoot a 7D so I'm not familiar with the menus/ options of the T4i. However, I did find the above link which shows how to set Auto Exposure Bracketing on your camera. Hope it helps.


Thanks, but this just pretty much repeats my book in different words. It just says that 3 shots will be taken at different exposures, not *how* to make it 3 shots. Mine is taking 6... They seem to all be missing a step!

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Feb 2, 2014 08:22:29   #
Mallardo Loc: NW Louisiana
 
Bloke wrote:
Thanks, but this just pretty much repeats my book in different words. It just says that 3 shots will be taken at different exposures, not *how* to make it 3 shots. Mine is taking 6... They seem to all be missing a step!


Hmm, that's odd. When I set Auto Bracketing on my camera it fires a three shot burst. I may be missing something, though. A work around is to set the exposures manually for each shot. You'd want to be tripod mounted but it works the same way.

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Feb 2, 2014 11:33:26   #
Bpace Loc: Alabama
 
Maybe I mis understood but,
Try turning off continuous shooting and use bracket only. start with -1 0 +1 and see if you can tell a difference in exposure.

Bloke wrote:
Thanks, but this just pretty much repeats my book in different words. It just says that 3 shots will be taken at different exposures, not *how* to make it 3 shots. Mine is taking 6... They seem to all be missing a step!

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Feb 2, 2014 13:21:01   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Bpace wrote:
Maybe I mis understood but,
Try turning off continuous shooting and use bracket only. start with -1 0 +1 and see if you can tell a difference in exposure.


With continuous shooting off, it is *supposed* to make the bracketed exposures for the next 3 shots, but when I tried it, it didn't take any notice of the bracket bit at all, just exposed 3 regular shots. With continuous, it is doing the bracketed exposure properly, but then repeating the 3 shots again...

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Feb 2, 2014 13:23:16   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
Mallardo wrote:
Hmm, that's odd. When I set Auto Bracketing on my camera it fires a three shot burst. I may be missing something, though. A work around is to set the exposures manually for each shot. You'd want to be tripod mounted but it works the same way.


I am using a tripod anyway. I really want to avoid having to dial in each exposure manually, though. For one thing, that gives more time for something to move in the scene. I was using the timer delay yesterday, but some of my shots were across a road, and trying to get a long enough gap in traffic, 10 seconds ahead of time, did not always work. On *those* occasions, I was glad of the extra 3 shots, because I could usually find 1 of each pair which was 'clear'.

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Feb 2, 2014 13:38:07   #
GaryI Loc: NY & Fla
 
Bloke wrote:
I have a quick question... I guess I need to dig into the manual, but I couldn't find any more details on this the last time.

On the T4i, to shoot for HDR, you have to set the amount of 'variation' in the exposure, then take the shots manually.
I tried taking 3 individual shots, which the book says will automatically be exposed with the exposure offsets selected. They weren't. They were all exposed the same.
Now, if I set it to continuous shooting, it takes 6 shots. I thought maybe it was spreading exposures between the compensation figures I had selected, but it didn't. It shot 2 sets of 3 identical shots. I mean, it did the exposure compensations correctly, as I was expecting, for 3 exposures. Then it repeats the same 3 shots again.

I fail to see the reason for this. I mean, 'film' is cheap, but it just seems a waste to repeat an identical set of 3 each time.

I just downloaded them, but haven't yet imported into LR. I would imagine that LR will ignore them as being duplicates, but the import process does not seem to work the way I would expect. For example, I download the original CR2 files into my 'safe' area. Then, if I tell the program to copy them into my 'working' folder, and convert them to dng files on the way, it copies them *twice*.

I guess this became 2 quick questions... :-D
I have a quick question... I guess I need to dig... (show quote)


I don't know about the t4i, but my canon has settings for 2 different bracketing types, exposure or focusing. Also, the amount ofbracketing is set independently from turning the bracketing on or off. Perhaps one of those is your issue.

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Feb 2, 2014 13:51:04   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
GaryI wrote:
I don't know about the t4i, but my canon has settings for 2 different bracketing types, exposure or focusing. Also, the amount ofbracketing is set independently from turning the bracketing on or off. Perhaps one of those is your issue.


The bracketing *is* turned on, and it is for exposure. It works, the exposures *are* being bracketed. I just need to know why it shoots 6 frames each time instead of 3. My book says it will do from 2 to 10 frames for each press of the shutter, but I cannot find anywhere which says how to set this number.

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Feb 2, 2014 14:27:41   #
GaryI Loc: NY & Fla
 
Bloke wrote:
The bracketing *is* turned on, and it is for exposure. It works, the exposures *are* being bracketed. I just need to know why it shoots 6 frames each time instead of 3. My book says it will do from 2 to 10 frames for each press of the shutter, but I cannot find anywhere which says how to set this number.


Are you shooting in both jpeg and raw, or just one?

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Feb 2, 2014 14:48:49   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
GaryI wrote:
Are you shooting in both jpeg and raw, or just one?


Actually, both... I had been shooting both for shooting at a friend's wedding (so I could give some quick 'draft' results), and I forgot to turn it back to just raw. About half-way round my outing yesterday, I finally switched back to just raw.

It didn't make any difference to the issue I was having, though.

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Feb 2, 2014 16:02:55   #
Bpace Loc: Alabama
 
Try doing a settings reset and start over. Not sure where it is on a Canon.
I have had to do that when certain functions wouldnt work.
Some functions interfere with others..

Bloke wrote:
Actually, both... I had been shooting both for shooting at a friend's wedding (so I could give some quick 'draft' results), and I forgot to turn it back to just raw. About half-way round my outing yesterday, I finally switched back to just raw.

It didn't make any difference to the issue I was having, though.

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