New JPEG standard... Goodbye to RAW....
Jan 31, 2014 13:53:51 #
Recently released new JPEG standard supports 12 bit color depth. Also supports completely lossless compression. See here:
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/01/21/jpeg-standard-receives-update-now-supports-12-bit-color-depth/
OK, as far as the "Goodbye" to RAW, I did that about 4 years ago, after 4-5 years of shooting primarily RAW. Camera development reached a level of in camera processing and sharpness by reduction (now removal) of low pass AA filtering.
This new JPEG standard (and hopeful continued development) cements that decision for me. NO RAW here.
Now, where do I go to get my camera to shoot the new lossless, 12 bit JPEG? Hmmm.
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/01/21/jpeg-standard-receives-update-now-supports-12-bit-color-depth/
OK, as far as the "Goodbye" to RAW, I did that about 4 years ago, after 4-5 years of shooting primarily RAW. Camera development reached a level of in camera processing and sharpness by reduction (now removal) of low pass AA filtering.
This new JPEG standard (and hopeful continued development) cements that decision for me. NO RAW here.
Now, where do I go to get my camera to shoot the new lossless, 12 bit JPEG? Hmmm.
Jan 31, 2014 13:55:56 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
Kuzano wrote:
Recently released new JPEG standard supports 12 bi... (show quote)
Because I only do two things during waking hours: post-process and shoot.
Jan 31, 2014 13:57:44 #
Kuzano wrote:
Recently released new JPEG standard supports 12 bi... (show quote)
Very funny! Ooops, clicked on the wrong >quote reply<, I meant to say > Very funny!< to the OP's statement (even I do like the lossless, 12 bit JPEG remark - it's funny too!
Jan 31, 2014 13:59:34 #
TheDman wrote:
Because I only do two things during waking hours: post-process and shoot.
Corrected my post to include one of other new features. New JPEG 12 bit AND supports completely lossless compression.
Your new balance in shooting time vs PP time will move toward shooting.
Do you ever eat?
:lol:
Jan 31, 2014 14:01:18 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
Kuzano wrote:
Corrected my post to include one of other new features. New JPEG 12 bit AND supports completely lossless compression.
Your new balance in shooting time vs PP time will move toward shooting.
Do you ever eat?
:lol:
Your new balance in shooting time vs PP time will move toward shooting.
Do you ever eat?
:lol:
Yep, and play tennis, go to work, watch movies, etc. etc. Post-processing does not take away shooting time, and people who don't post process aren't really my competitors.
Jan 31, 2014 14:02:45 #
speters wrote:
Very funny!
Indeed, but I suspect that Olympus, the MOST creative camera company, will be the first to include the new JPEG "in camera". That's where I "Get It Right In Camera Now".
Another option may be to shoot RAW in the camera, But not for extensive post processing, but to immediately convert to the new JPEG standard.
That's likely the ONLY way I would again push the shutter with any of my Camera's set to RAW.
Jan 31, 2014 14:04:14 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
With Raw "shooting" you really don't have to think as much as you do shooting jpg, therefore jpg shooting takes more thought and creativity than JUST Raw shooting people. Raw is for PP Photographers and jpg is for "Get it in right in camera" crowd. What is the use of Photography if you are not really willing to learn how to do it before you take the shot? In the film days, we all had to learn to pre-plan our shots before hitting that shutter, now all we do is select Raw and fix later??? Ya I'm prolly gonna rattle some people in here LOL. ;)
Jan 31, 2014 14:04:34 #
Kuzano wrote:
Indeed, but I suspect that Olympus, the MOST creative camera company, will be the first to include the new JPEG "in camera". That's where I "Get It Right In Camera Now".
Jan 31, 2014 14:05:16 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
Racmanaz wrote:
With Raw "shooting" you really don't hav... (show quote)
Trying to get your white balance right isn't "creativity", and that's about the only difference.
Jan 31, 2014 14:06:54 #
While the technology looks intriguing, it's likely still a few years off. Maybe the newer cameras will have that standard incorporated in them. I seriously doubt that they will have the feature as a software hack into the existing cameras (although they might,as what the hell do I know about that kind of stuff). I would think they would instead incorporate it into newer models so as to increase the sales of them...(kinda like what Adobe does with ACR)
Jan 31, 2014 14:07:20 #
Kuzano wrote:
Recently released new JPEG standard supports 12 bi... (show quote)
Sorry - very much a newbie -- would you have to replace the camera to take advantage of this or does it all happen outside the camera? (Of course, I just bought a new camera literally two days ago.)
Jan 31, 2014 14:08:20 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
I'm not sure how this is supposed to cut into post processing time anyway. Do people only PP now because jpgs are 8-bit? That doesn't make sense.
Jan 31, 2014 14:08:20 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
TheDman wrote:
Trying to get your white balance right isn't "creativity", and that's about the only difference.
It is when you want to be creative with it.
Jan 31, 2014 14:09:00 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
Racmanaz wrote:
It is when you want to be creative with it.
That's as creative as turning the steering wheel in my car.
Jan 31, 2014 14:10:47 #
Racmanaz wrote:
With Raw "shooting" you really don't hav... (show quote)
Ya' can't rattle me... My Yellow BMW Coupe had the vanity plate on it MELLOW.
My last post just before yours indicates a solution that even I may consider. Shoot RAW and do only ONE conversion... Right to the new JPEG.
I am, however, a bit tired of the other post on this thread supporting the "myth" that you can ONLY fix white balance in RAW. BS. White balance can be manipulated in some editing programs on JPEG files.
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