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Jan 30, 2014 11:04:11   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
I thought I would post some pairs of photos and ellicit some responses from my fellow "Hoggers" concerning your various opinions as to whether you prefer the attached photos in the original color captures (with some minor PP) or in the PP B&W versions. All PP was done using Canon's native software included with my 40D.
Have fun viewing and responding! Thanks.
PS: And yes, my son had a little "boo-boo" on his nose when this was taken. He's a bit of a "rough-n-tumble" lad.

Rhodenderons in Spring - Color
Rhodenderons in Spring - Color...
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Rhodenderons in Spring - B&W
Rhodenderons in Spring - B&W...
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(Large) Magnolia Blossom - Color
(Large) Magnolia Blossom - Color...
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(Large) Magnolia Blossom - B&W
(Large) Magnolia Blossom - B&W...
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My youngest son - w/my middle son in the background - Color
My youngest son - w/my middle son in the backgroun...
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My youngest son - w/my middle son in the background - B&W (cropped in a little)
My youngest son - w/my middle son in the backgroun...
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Jan 30, 2014 11:08:43   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
For single blooms, I like color. Color is sort of what a single bloom is all about.

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Jan 30, 2014 11:23:17   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
How are you converting to black and white? There are many techniques and they can make quite a big difference in the results.

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Jan 30, 2014 11:28:01   #
oldmalky Loc: West Midlands,England.
 
For me colour every time.

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Jan 30, 2014 11:50:14   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
I see you added shots of children. Here I like the B&W

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Jan 30, 2014 11:58:46   #
indycaver Loc: Indianapolis
 
Color on all three. B&W is great when you are wanting alot of contrast and creating a mood, i.e.old buildings, barns, etc.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:23:00   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
indycaver wrote:
Color on all three. B&W is great when you are wanting alot of contrast and creating a mood, i.e.old buildings, barns, etc.


I would have to agree. Not all photos lend themselves to b&w, and, to me anyway, there are situations where you just expect to see color, such as flowers and a young kid with a bright red shirt.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:36:19   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
It's not a matter of which is "better". It's a matter of personal opinion. I remember when all photos were B&W. No one would say that Ansel Adam's shots were no goog because they were not color.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:39:15   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
The reason I asked about how you converted to black and white is illustrated by the attached. I opened it in Adobe Camera Raw, used a fill light to bring out the boy's face, cropped, converted to black and white adjusting the individual color sliders, then opened in Photoshop. There, I did a quick selection of the background, duplicated to a new layer which I set to Multiply mode, and duplicated that layer again a couple of times. Net result: a dark background and a more dramatic black and white. Net time: a little over 5 minutes.

You can do considerably better starting with your original image.


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Jan 30, 2014 12:39:55   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
RMM wrote:
How are you converting to black and white? There are many techniques and they can make quite a big difference in the results.


Just using Canon's native RAW conversion software included with my camera...their DPP, I believe it's referred to.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:42:21   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
RMM wrote:
The reason I asked about how you converted to black and white is illustrated by the attached. I opened it in Adobe Camera Raw, used a fill light to bring out the boy's face, cropped, converted to black and white adjusting the individual color sliders, then opened in Photoshop. There, I did a quick selection of the background, duplicated to a new layer which I set to Multiply mode, and duplicated that layer again a couple of times. Net result: a dark background and a more dramatic black and white. Net time: a little over 5 minutes.

You can do considerably better starting with your original image.
The reason I asked about how you converted to blac... (show quote)


Thanks! I felt it was lacking...a little busy with "light" in the background - the bush on the right. Unfortunately the only software I have at the moment is the Canon DPP...

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Jan 30, 2014 12:44:16   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
LFingar wrote:
I would have to agree. Not all photos lend themselves to b&w, and, to me anyway, there are situations where you just expect to see color, such as flowers and a young kid with a bright red shirt.


Thanks for commenting! I would agree that not all photos are worth creating a B&W of. Although, sometimes I find it fun to play around and see what I can do...for example:

Sepia toned of my "middle" son...
Sepia toned of my "middle" son......
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Jan 30, 2014 12:45:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FramerMCB wrote:
I thought I would post some pairs of photos and ellicit some responses from my fellow "Hoggers" concerning your various opinions as to whether you prefer the attached photos in the original color captures (with some minor PP) or in the PP B&W versions. All PP was done using Canon's native software included with my 40D.
Have fun viewing and responding! Thanks.
PS: And yes, my son had a little "boo-boo" on his nose when this was taken. He's a bit of a "rough-n-tumble" lad.
I thought I would post some pairs of photos and el... (show quote)

Color.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:46:51   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
indycaver wrote:
Color on all three. B&W is great when you are wanting alot of contrast and creating a mood, i.e.old buildings, barns, etc.


I would tend to agree although I do like the B&W of my son - I find it helps focus on the textures and his facial expression in the photo. The two flower examples I used were, in my opion also preferred as color, although, they are at best two-toned images...so nearly mono-chrome.

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Jan 30, 2014 12:48:27   #
FramerMCB Loc: Northern, ID (formerly Portland, OR area)
 
dsmeltz wrote:
For single blooms, I like color. Color is sort of what a single bloom is all about.


You mean like this one...?

Another Magnolia...just starting to open.
Another Magnolia...just starting to open....
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