Searcher wrote:
I think that your preference pre-sets have been corrupted and the cure is to rebuild.
If you have created loads of pre-sets, this rebuild can be a bit of a nuisance, but if you are working without pre-sets, it is not so much of a problem.
Here is a link to the instructions which also tells about the ramifications of the rebuild. Read it carefully, and follow it without taking shortcuts.
http://www.lightroomforums.net/showthread.php?14226-Resetting-(or-Trashing-)-the-Lightroom-Preferences-file
If you decide against the rebuild there is another way, that is to create a new pre-set for the Edit in . . . If you would rather try this and don't know how, let me know and I will take you through it.
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OK. Finally was able to try this solution. Followed the instructions as given, but the same problem persists. Might the next step be a re-install of the program?
cruizer wrote:
yes...also...to clarify..only have problem when trying to edit a raw image...with tiff etc. I still do get the edit in dialogue
I just tried editing a non-RAW image (jpeg) and DID get the dialogue box asking whether to retain LR edits. I checked it and went to CS. Still got the original image sans LR edits.
cruizer wrote:
yes...also...to clarify..only have problem when trying to edit a raw image...with tiff etc. I still do get the edit in dialogue
On some photos I must use both LR5 and PSE 11
windshoppe wrote:
OK. Finally was able to try this solution. Followed the instructions as given, but the same problem persists. Might the next step be a re-install of the program?
This is the bit I really hate - that horrible word re-install. You won't lose originals, but there are so many things that can hinder or annoy. It is the very last thing I would ever
do or suggest. I know some folk just do it without any problems, let me re-read everything you both have said and try to simulate the problem on my machine, I will get back to you in 24 hours. Meanwhile anybody else got an answer?
One more thing, goto Edit > Catalogue settings > Metadata
Ensure the boxes are checked as the illustration below, if they are not, check them, close LR and reopen, then try edit in Again and observe what happens to the dialogue boxes and the transferred image.
Did not need 24 hours. I think your LR and CS5 are working as Adobe intended - they have at some point changed the workflow.
If you are using xmp sidecar files to store changes to metadata the following scenario occurs:
Select a raw file, right click and select Edit in, choose an Adobe product and you will be switched directly to the chosen program. Since you cannot actually alter a raw file, LR has to send a copy out, you cannot ever send the original so Adobe have cut out the dialogue which asks you if you want to edit the original or a copy or a copy of the original. Make your edits in CS5 or CC or PSE, press save and a newly generated copy with edits will appear in LR either stacked or next to the original. The format will probably be psd.
If you are editing a psd, tiff or jpg, the "What kind of copy" dialogue will open and you have the usual choices.
My test was to open a raw file in the Develop module, I painted a huge No 2 on the image and then did the Edit in procedure. The image opened in PS complete with the No 2. I did a little more obvious editing, saved and found the new image in LR complete with all edits. This works both from the Library and the Develop modules - I notice on another thread where the source module is being queried.
Searcher wrote:
One more thing, goto Edit > Catalogue settings > Metadata
Ensure the boxes are checked as the illustration below, if they are not, check them, close LR and reopen, then try edit in Again and observe what happens to the dialogue boxes and the transferred image.
OK. Checked and it is checked correctly.
Searcher wrote:
Did not need 24 hours. I think your LR and CS5 are working as Adobe intended - they have at some point changed the workflow.
If you are using xmp sidecar files to store changes to metadata the following scenario occurs:
Select a raw file, right click and select Edit in, choose an Adobe product and you will be switched directly to the chosen program. Since you cannot actually alter a raw file, LR has to send a copy out, you cannot ever send the original so Adobe have cut out the dialogue which asks you if you want to edit the original or a copy or a copy of the original. Make your edits in CS5 or CC or PSE, press save and a newly generated copy with edits will appear in LR either stacked or next to the original. The format will probably be psd.
If you are editing a psd, tiff or jpg, the "What kind of copy" dialogue will open and you have the usual choices.
My test was to open a raw file in the Develop module, I painted a huge No 2 on the image and then did the Edit in procedure. The image opened in PS complete with the No 2. I did a little more obvious editing, saved and found the new image in LR complete with all edits. This works both from the Library and the Develop modules - I notice on another thread where the source module is being queried.
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Searcher, I really appreciate your pursuing this very frustrating issue. This time you've lost me, however. If, when I get to photoshop with the RAW file and it is in its original unedited in LR form, how can I edit in Photoshop when what I'm trying to edit is the LR edited version? Guess my brain has exhausted today's ability to comprehend.
Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) can't edit a RAW file without help. The help will come from ACR if you do a File, Open directly.
If you are using LR and you want to edit a RAW file with no LR adjustments, press Reset in the Develop module. If you want to save any LR edits, make a Virtual Copy, Reset the copy in the Develop module and the Edit in PS.
windshoppe wrote:
Searcher, I really appreciate your pursuing this very frustrating issue. This time you've lost me, however. If, when I get to photoshop with the RAW file and it is in its original unedited in LR form, how can I edit in Photoshop when what I'm trying to edit is the LR edited version? Guess my brain has exhausted today's ability to comprehend.
This is incorrect.
When you edit a raw file in PS, even if it doesn't ask, the file is the currently edited version...I just checked.
windshoppe wrote:
Searcher, I really appreciate your pursuing this very frustrating issue. This time you've lost me, however. If, when I get to photoshop with the RAW file and it is in its original unedited in LR form, how can I edit in Photoshop when what I'm trying to edit is the LR edited version? Guess my brain has exhausted today's ability to comprehend.
Blow by Blow
1 First image is a copy of the original raw file before any edits have been made
2 I took that raw file into the develop module and wrote across it "Edit LR"
3 I carried out an "Edit in Photoshop" on the 2nd image and in Photoshop I added "New Edit in Photoshop"
I pressed "Save" and this new copy was returned to Lightroom
In the Library I now have showing the second and third images, if I want to start again with the original but retain all the edits, I would Right click on No 2, choose create virtual image - this would copy that edited image, then go back to the No 2 image and click reset. This would wipe out
the LR edits.
The original raw file is still on your hard drive, untouched but with an xmp file by its side containing the edits.
Where this is different to what it used to be is that LR in the past would have left a copy of the original raw file in the Library, now it does not.
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Searcher wrote:
Blow by Blow
1 First image is a copy of the original raw file before any edits have been made
2 I took that raw file into the develop module and wrote across it "Edit LR"
3 I carried out an "Edit in Photoshop" on the 2nd image and in Photoshop I added "New Edit in Photoshop"
I pressed "Save" and this new copy was returned to Lightroom
In the Library I now have showing the second and third images, if I want to start again with the original but retain all the edits, I would Right click on No 2, choose create virtual image - this would copy that edited image, then go back to the No 2 image and click reset. This would wipe out
the LR edits.
The original raw file is still on your hard drive, untouched but with an xmp file by its side containing the edits.
Where this is different to what it used to be is that LR in the past would have left a copy of the original raw file in the Library, now it does not.
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Following the above workflow: when I take my edited in LR RAW file into PS what I have in PS is the UNEDITED original-in your example the "edit LR" in the grass would not be present. Doesn't matter whether I do it with RAW, tif, jpeg, the LR edits don't transfer to PS. Am I missing something here?
windshoppe wrote:
Following the above workflow: when I take my edited in LR RAW file into PS what I have in PS is the UNEDITED original-in your example the "edit LR" in the grass would not be present. Doesn't matter whether I do it with RAW, tif, jpeg, the LR edits don't transfer to PS. Am I missing something here?
Something is definitely wrong.
do you have multiple images selected in the "filmstrip" below the main window?
Do this:
Push control D (on a windows box) and that deselects everything.
Take one photo and make it black and white by hitting the "black and white" button in LR.
Right click it and choose "edit in" and when it gets to PS...tell me if you see a black and white photo.
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