hopthecop Loc: salisbury md

ANY OF THIS SOUND FAMILIAR TO YOU? LIKE MAYBE IT'S IN THE HEADLINES EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2014 IS A "HUGE" GET OUT THE VOTE YEAR

All in a day's work, according to Obama, who took advice and training from Saul Alinsky.

How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people.

2) Poverty - Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income.

6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion - Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina

Obama is a good student, and is passing this course with flying colors; and his grades are not hidden from public view as his college transcripts are.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

not if you are a LIBERAL.

rocketride Loc: Upstate NY

The irony is that it's not so much the rich versus the poor as the very rich (i.e., able to buy politicians, rich) versus everyone else.

Also, other than in NY, CO & CT, how is that increased "gun control" working out?

tomd01 Loc: Allentown, Pa.

Unfortunately the only ones that will vote will be the ones on welfare and the dems who cant face the truth about what this so called president has done. The conservatives for the most part are pretty fed up with the work the people in congress have done and will probably just sit home and watch the dems take the next election from them, this is playing right into the hands of the socialist liberals.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Are these direct quotes, or are you making this up????

rocketride Loc: Upstate NY

They are, I think, paraphrases, but reasonably faithful ones.

Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip

read RULES FOR RADICALS by Saul Alinskinik the commie
Obama's hero ( and Biden, and Hillary)

hopthecop Loc: salisbury md

thanks, that should settle that one...................

GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA

Wikipedia's article on Saul Alinsky cites these rules from his Rules for Radicals, the work generally mentioned in assertions that he was a mentor to President Obama.

1.“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."
2.“Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
3.“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
4.“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
6.“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
7.“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
8.“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
9.“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10."The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
11.“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
12.“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
13.“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”


see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

Hmm. Where are the broad themes mentioned by the OP? Where is "control of healthcare?" I don't see any mention of religion, let alone God. National debt? I don't see any mention of that. No mention of guns by Alinsky, he espouses ridicule as a weapon.

Or is this merely another effort to "stir the pot" with bogus, intellectually bankrupt, rabble-rousing assertions? This sounds too much like Glenn Beck, that towering intellect, preaching to the choir, complete with white board and bogus tears, just before a commercial for one of his personal enterprises.

How about some citations, source documents, etc? Primary sources, please, not some whack-job web site.

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

I think the points you are making, Mr. Cop, are pretty well substantiated by recent history. They will, however, come under fire by some because there are no URL's provided for each point made.
Something needs to change to prevent the U.S. from becoming one big, giant, Detroit, New York City, Sacramento, etc.
I've not seen such an outpouring of patriotism and love of freedom as displayed since 911, and yet more liberties have been taken away (given up) in that same time than ever before.

Mr. Wilson: In fairness, we should note that ALL college records are sealed for the protection of ALL students, unless specifically released by a particular student. Of course, many politicians have released their records, while Mr. Obama has not. But he hasn't actually done anything unusual to conceal them.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

this is their rule book. fabian socialism.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/199691/Fabian-Society

Skellum0

I am not an Obama supporter. However, rubbish of this type does nothing to advance the Republican cause. Focus on policies. Obama and the Democrats are very weak on policy so that is where they can be hurt.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

You mean to tell me that over 51% of the nation is on welfare! Why, I'll bet you get more welfare than most of the poor. You get a mortgage deduction? You get deductions for family?

You are a fool!

richard-sports Loc: New York City

How about corporate welfare which exists in staggering numbers.
How about welfare to corporate farms, the rich get richer.
Yeah, but I am sure that does not count.
And what is the problem with New York City. How do you put NYC in the same category as Detroit. This is the greatest city in the world. More people visit NYC for vacation than anywhere else in the world.