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Dec 17, 2011 15:58:23   #
JohnnyRottenNJ Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
I believe the idea of HDR is to lighten the dark spots and darken the light spots, taking that info from several photos. The software PhotoMatix was mentioned as that is likely the most popular HDR software. The idea of post processing several images taken in rapid succession (preferably on a tripod) with ever increasing exposure values, allows you to put them into the software and let the computer do the work. Depending on the range and the speed of the computer, it can take from just a few seconds to something like a couple of hours. I have PhotoMatix Pro, vers. 3.2, and haven't used it much. I have been working on other projects. It seems like the easiest way to experiment with HDR. And yet I'm still not sure exactly what you are trying to ask or find out???

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Dec 17, 2011 16:14:09   #
arphot Loc: Massachusetts
 
JohnnyRottenNJ wrote:
And yet I'm still not sure exactly what you are trying to ask or find out???


BboH wrote:
why should I do HDR in PP rather than just making and using the multiple exposure?


Although the question seems rather straightforward, I too was looking for clarification in my response:
arphot wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by "making and using". But, if you're talking about using the multiple exposures for something other than HDR, then the options are few. What other reason to have multiple exposures than to combine them for an overall aesthetically pleasing or creatively compelling photo?

Of course there is the Exposure Fusion versus HDR, which you might care to read this excerpt from the Photomatix site: http://www.hdrsoft.com/support/faq_photomatix.html#differences
I'm not sure what you mean by "making and us... (show quote)


BboH . . . help us out. What is it that you are looking for in a response. Thanks!

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Dec 17, 2011 16:59:14   #
Jack Disbrow Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Just for those who still find a mystery in HDR ... here are four photos that may, just may, help. The first three are the results from a bracketed photo taken of our housing complex in NJ. The final photo shows the results of combining those three into one, using FDRTools. I printed that one out and showed it to my wife who said, "That's just like looking down our street!"

Exactly. When the system works, it's great. Oh ... and against all instructions, the bracketed photos were taken hand-held with the help of a chain support for some extra stability. A tripod would have produced a bit more sharpness.

Exposure A
Exposure A...

Exposure B
Exposure B...

Exposure C
Exposure C...

The combined result.
Attached file:
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The Final Result!
The Final Result!...

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Dec 17, 2011 17:47:54   #
JohnnyRottenNJ Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
That's the advantage of the PhotoMatix Pro, it will accept small differences in viewing angle (for lack of a better term) and place the pics over the top of each other and lines them up.

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Dec 17, 2011 18:00:39   #
Jack Disbrow Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
FDRTools does it as well, but a tripod is still the best means of support. This set was a test to see if the chain from tripod socket to ground would provide sufficient stability. It is better than pure hand held. FDRTools is apparently working on a version that specifically handles hand-held photos. Hope it works.

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Dec 17, 2011 18:26:02   #
JohnnyRottenNJ Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
I think that is what takes PhotoMatix Pro so long to work, if it has to align several photos. But again, that's just a guess. I have it, I just haven't used it much.

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Dec 19, 2011 13:02:21   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
arphot wrote:
JohnnyRottenNJ wrote:
If you perceive that as convoluted...


Just in case this was related to me: I am the one who used the term "convoluted". It was not regarding any one poster in this thread. It had to do with the original question:

BboH wrote:
... why should I do HRD in PP rather than just making and using the multiple exposure?


The question never seemed to be answered. Lots of comments surrounding HDR, then folks posting their images within the thread (still not answering the question), etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong please. Does this not sound as though the question in question was never answered directly?

And as far as Bboh's dyslexia in spelling HRD, yes we can pick on the small stuff. I knew he wasn't talking about a Human Resources Department and from the other responders I guess they knew as well.

BboH wrote:
why should I do HRD in PP rather than just making and using the multiple exposure?


I think he was asking 'why should he do HDR in Post Processing'? (now I could be wrong about that one but I'm going out on a limb here).

Anyway . . . I hope I cleared some things up.
quote=JohnnyRottenNJ If you perceive that as con... (show quote)


You are exactly correct - why do high dynamic range in post processing if it can be done in camera. Have been experimenting and will post some results later this week

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Dec 19, 2011 15:55:43   #
JohnnyRottenNJ Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Well the last few posts were certainly typed in a friendlier tone. I'm not a professional photographer, and as such, I sometimes sound like I'm talking out my butt. But the point I was (probably not so eloquently) trying to make, is that in almost every instance, you should do your post processing on the computer and NOT in the camera. Doing some of that in the camera is OK, but you don't have as much control, and are much more likely to lose an otherwise great shot. I say this for two reasons: You can see much more of what is going on with a 20+" monitor as opposed to a 3" display on the back of the camera. Secondly, I always transfer the images to the computer (via a card reader, I don't like hooking up the camera to my computer for any reason other than updating the firmware. I know it's probably safe 99 & 44/100% of the time,) I then copy an image or images that I want to work on over into a work folder. That way I never take a chance of messing up or deleting the initial image. Hey call me a belt and suspenders type of guy, but I've never lost an image due to pressing the wrong button when I was tired or just not paying close attention. But that's just me.

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Dec 19, 2011 20:39:43   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
The images posted by Jack - what I think is that multiple imaging in the camera would put A, B & C together in the camera and present The Final Result.

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