Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

First and foremost, thank you sir for your distinguished service, in the United States Air Force.

I'm terribly sorry you have such a low opinion of our nations truck drivers, that without their dedicated job performance our fine country would grind to a halt in a mere three days. I'm sure there is a reason for your abject hatred of that profession, and at times there are indeed issues between cars and trucks. However that being said I always yielded to automobiles knowing full well that any adverse outcome would favor me and my 80,000 pounds versus a 4,000 pound car. If you would care to reveal just why you have your hatred for truck drivers, I would be interested in knowing why.

I can only thank my lucky stars that each and every time I delivered or picked up a load in Oklahoma (which were probably several hundred during my 42 years as a Professional Truck Driver) I didn't have to deal with a Sooner of your obvious disdain for my chosen profession. Quite the contrary, in each and every interaction I had with the great people of Oklahoma, was indeed a pleasant experience and I was treated with the utmost respect. However, I guess there are exceptions to the rule.

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I'm just wondering how and when you served other than plying your trade on our nation's highways polluting the atmosphere with diesel fumes and making unnecessary loud noises with your "jakebrake."[quote]

I enlisted in the Marine Corps in July of 1963 and Honorably discharged in 1967. During that period I was deployed to South Viet Nam, (Chu Lai) for 11 months in 1965. I will not belabor you with the horror's that we experienced over there, as they are well documented.

As for using my engine brake (jakebrake) I never even turned it on unless the grade was greater than 3%, and I will concede the fact that over the past 20 years or so, there has been an influx of sub-standard drivers entering the field and that is a primary reason I sold my truck and retired early, at 61, 6 years ago.

Welcome to the Chit Chat Forum, and have a nice day!
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As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic M0RON."
----H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

cudakite Loc: San Antonio

[quote=Jakebrake]First and foremost, thank you sir for your distinguished service, in the United States Air Force.

I'm terribly sorry you have such a low opinion of our nations truck drivers, that without their dedicated job performance our fine country would grind to a halt in a mere three days. I'm sure there is a reason for your abject hatred of that profession, and at times there are indeed issues between cars and trucks. However that being said I always yielded to automobiles knowing full well that any adverse outcome would favor me and my 80,000 pounds versus a 4,000 pound car. If you would care to reveal just why you have your hatred for truck drivers, I would be interested in knowing why.

I can only thank my lucky stars that each and every time I delivered or picked up a load in Oklahoma (which were probably several hundred during my 42 years as a Professional Truck Driver) I didn't have to deal with a Sooner of your obvious disdain for my chosen profession. Quite the contrary, in each and every interaction I had with the great people of Oklahoma, was indeed a pleasant experience and I was treated with the utmost respect. However, I guess there are exceptions to the rule.

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I'm just wondering how and when you served other than plying your trade on our nation's highways polluting the atmosphere with diesel fumes and making unnecessary loud noises with your "jakebrake."

Jake, clearly this guy hasn't a clue how almost everything gets to the stores HE shops at. Maybe he's too old now? =(

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Bmac wrote:
You may wish to read more in depth concerning Jim Jones, who was and claimed to be many things...including a communist, socialist, agnostic and atheist. A Christian he wasn't.
MagicRay replied:
Yes, Jim Jones was a narcissistic psychopath and was also probably all those labels that you mention. But he was also a Christian.

My statement that Jim Jones was a Christian stands. He was a Christian at one time. Can a person be a youth pastor of a Methodist Church and not be a Christian? At that time he was a Christian. I agreed with you that he was also a Marxist, socialist, atheist, agnostic and communist at one time. I was a Catholic, now I am an atheist. Jim Jones was a Christian and later changed his philosophy and direction. Adolph Hitler's mother was a devout Catholic and Adolph was raised as a Catholic. Adolph Hitler was a Catholic at one time and always considered himself to be one.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Well Ray we will continue to disagree about this. What one does with his/her life seems to indicate whether one follows a religion or philosophy rather than what one states, for people lie.

"In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. He said repeatedly that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science.[1] It is generally accepted by historians that Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[2][3] The adult Hitler did not believe in the Judeo-Christian notion of God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question of atheism is debated, however reputable Hitler biographers Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree Hitler was anti-Christian."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Hitler could have stated he was anything, a humanist for example, or a progressive thinker who adored Jews. His actions proved otherwise as did Jones. They were as Christian as Stalin was. 8-)

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

magicray wrote:
Jim Jones: Christian preacher who led 911 followers to their deaths.

Bmac wrote: I agree that you cannot judge an entire group by the actions of a few, but, if you do not consider whether Jim Jones was Christian relevant to your point why did you categorize him and bold face it?

This is what magicray replied to Bangee's post.:
"If your point is that all Democrats are "Left Wing Democratic Liberal Socialist" then, I don't get your point. There is no point to broad brush generalizations of a particular group. Did Jim Jones represent all Christians? Do you speak for all Christians? Does rpavich speak for all Christians? Do I speak for all agnostics and atheists? My point is that just because there are Islamic Extremists killing innocent people all over the world you shouldn't throw the peace loving Muslims in the same bag by generalizing."

Bangee replied that Jim Jones was not a Christian. He says that, every time a Christian falls from grace, implying that a 'real' Christian would not act in such a manner. I think this is a cop-out. Anyway my reply was from Wikipedia that "Jim Jones was a Christian preacher" to dispute Bangee's claim that JJ was not a Christian. That is why it is in bold, since you asked. You would have to go back to the very beginning of this topic to understand the context.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

norvik1943 is a great patriot who joined the Air Force because he needed a job and goes around bragging what a super sacrifice he made for his country. Then he posts a photo of a Marine Drill Sargent to show what a badass he is. He's never dug a foxhole or been in actual combat or he wouldn't be so boisterous. He loves his country so much he lives in France. I served in the US Army Artillery from 1963 thru 1971 and would rather not talk about it.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

He doesn't have to worry about it. Meals on Wheels takes care of that. Everything else he gets at the PX. He thinks things just happen.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today's Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers.

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Would you call the Crusaders Christian? You may be a Christian today because of their efforts.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Again,

What one does with his/her life seems to indicate whether one follows a religion or philosophy rather than what one states, for people lie.

Hitler could have stated he was anything, a humanist for example, or a progressive thinker who adored Jews. His actions proved otherwise as did Jones. They were as Christian as Stalin was.

You can have the last word if you wish Ray and believe what you will. 8-)

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

nevermind.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

nippy norman wrote:
Never forget the Holocaust..The Muslims are a bigger threat to our way of living than Adolph Hitler ever was.

Hey, DICK.