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Oct 10, 2013 15:26:28   #
Walter1949
 
For Photography Enthusiasts.

Warning about Panasonic newest baby Lumix DMC-FZ200 Point and Shoot Camera.
The newest baby by Panasonic in photography world is Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, point and shoot camera.
It would have been electronical and technological marvel for $600.00. With Lens by Leica which for those who know a little bit about lenses and cameras are one of the best optics in the World.
It would have been if not for one small flaw but very annoying one which Panasonic for some reason, strangely did not noticed or forgot to mention to those who decided to buy this camera. Like yours truly.
It has to be a specific situation to be photograph for the photographer to notice the flaw and it is possible only after the picture was taken and very often after it was transfer to home computer.
The picture taken has to be with wide angle, built in flash has to be use, and lens has to have lens hood attached.
The black shadow will be the biggest when the lens is at 25mm focus . (wide angle) and it will get smaller towards 50mm. And than there is no problem up to 600mm.
When taking picture with lens at 25mm (wide angle) and using build in flash during exposure the upper part of the lens hood will cast a big black half circular shadow in too the middle of the bottom edge of the picture. Which will be permanent and it will happened every time the picture is taken in those conditions by anyone with every Lumix FZ200 camera still on the market and already at homes. .
This result will occur also when taking macro photography if we use built in flash and lens hood.
I e-mail Panasonic 4 or 5 times. So far not even once have I received a satisfactory answer or useful information or anything. I called the number Panasonic provided on Internet around five times. Panasonic didn't even have the guts to pick up the phone and talk with me.
Panasonic’s respond to one of my e –mail on this subject was. - use external light instead of built in flash. You absolutely right. That does solve the problem because I have tried it and it did worked. The problem with this solution is guys that this is POINT AND SHOOT camera. Not a studio camera. Let’s say there is a group of people who would like have their picture taken together. We are inside. Space is limited we have to use wide angle and we know what the result of that will be.
So, what people at Panasonic suggesting is getting additional light and forget about built in flash. If we want the picture to come out nice we need good strong light. That may take some effort organizing. We did not buy POINT AND SHOOT camera to worry about additional lighting. By the way the Lumix FZ200 is quite capable of handling this situation lightening ways except for that black shadow.
That is what in my opinion Panasonic should be working on. How to get rid of black shadow from pictures taken in certain situations.

Or, we can take the lens hood off. Panasonic did not suggest that. This is my three cents. Of course I still realize that the lens hood is there for a reason. Not because it looks pretty.
In one of the Panasonic's responds to my many of e-mails to them, they try to explain to me what is lens hood and what is its purpose. Thank you Ladies and Gentleman at Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200 point and shoot camera for that insightful explanation. But I have been taking pictures all my life as a professional and now as an amateur, and I know what the lens hood is and what its purpose is.
You point you shoot, and the picture should come out beautiful. Shouldn't it. And believe or not in most instances they do, because it is a pretty good little camera. Except that one time when we use wide angle, built in flash and lens hood. I can guarantee you, that every time we will take this picture, we will get big black shadow in the middle of the bottom of the picture.
I am posting this in my News Paper in the "Letters do the Editor" just to worn people against buying Lumix DMC-FZ200 to save them disappointment and aggravation of dealing with the company later on. Trust me it is not a pleasant experience. Besides, the camera cost $600.00. For a lot of people it is a lot of money. So for that kind of money they expect trouble free sailing. Which they will not get if they buy Lumix DMC-FZ200.


One thing I cannot understand thought is a fact that Panasonic , one of the biggest company in the World in photo technology did mist something so obvious.

Regards,



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Oct 10, 2013 15:38:21   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Walter1949 wrote:
For Photography Enthusiasts.

Warning about Panasonic newest baby Lumix DMC-FZ200 Point and Shoot Camera.
The newest baby by Panasonic in photography world is Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, point and shoot camera.
It would have been electronical and technological marvel for $600.00. With Lens by Leica which for those who know a little bit about lenses and cameras are one of the best optics in the World.
It would have been if not for one small flaw but very annoying one which Panasonic for some reason, strangely did not noticed or forgot to mention to those who decided to buy this camera. Like yours truly.
It has to be a specific situation to be photograph for the photographer to notice the flaw and it is possible only after the picture was taken and very often after it was transfer to home computer.
The picture taken has to be with wide angle, built in flash has to be use, and lens has to have lens hood attached.
The black shadow will be the biggest when the lens is at 25mm focus . (wide angle) and it will get smaller towards 50mm. And than there is no problem up to 600mm.
When taking picture with lens at 25mm (wide angle) and using build in flash during exposure the upper part of the lens hood will cast a big black half circular shadow in too the middle of the bottom edge of the picture. Which will be permanent and it will happened every time the picture is taken in those conditions by anyone with every Lumix FZ200 camera still on the market and already at homes. .
This result will occur also when taking macro photography if we use built in flash and lens hood.
I e-mail Panasonic 4 or 5 times. So far not even once have I received a satisfactory answer or useful information or anything. I called the number Panasonic provided on Internet around five times. Panasonic didn't even have the guts to pick up the phone and talk with me.
Panasonic’s respond to one of my e –mail on this subject was. - use external light instead of built in flash. You absolutely right. That does solve the problem because I have tried it and it did worked. The problem with this solution is guys that this is POINT AND SHOOT camera. Not a studio camera. Let’s say there is a group of people who would like have their picture taken together. We are inside. Space is limited we have to use wide angle and we know what the result of that will be.
So, what people at Panasonic suggesting is getting additional light and forget about built in flash. If we want the picture to come out nice we need good strong light. That may take some effort organizing. We did not buy POINT AND SHOOT camera to worry about additional lighting. By the way the Lumix FZ200 is quite capable of handling this situation lightening ways except for that black shadow.
That is what in my opinion Panasonic should be working on. How to get rid of black shadow from pictures taken in certain situations.

Or, we can take the lens hood off. Panasonic did not suggest that. This is my three cents. Of course I still realize that the lens hood is there for a reason. Not because it looks pretty.
In one of the Panasonic's responds to my many of e-mails to them, they try to explain to me what is lens hood and what is its purpose. Thank you Ladies and Gentleman at Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200 point and shoot camera for that insightful explanation. But I have been taking pictures all my life as a professional and now as an amateur, and I know what the lens hood is and what its purpose is.
You point you shoot, and the picture should come out beautiful. Shouldn't it. And believe or not in most instances they do, because it is a pretty good little camera. Except that one time when we use wide angle, built in flash and lens hood. I can guarantee you, that every time we will take this picture, we will get big black shadow in the middle of the bottom of the picture.
I am posting this in my News Paper in the "Letters do the Editor" just to worn people against buying Lumix DMC-FZ200 to save them disappointment and aggravation of dealing with the company later on. Trust me it is not a pleasant experience. Besides, the camera cost $600.00. For a lot of people it is a lot of money. So for that kind of money they expect trouble free sailing. Which they will not get if they buy Lumix DMC-FZ200.


One thing I cannot understand thought is a fact that Panasonic , one of the biggest company in the World in photo technology did mist something so obvious.

Regards,
For Photography Enthusiasts. br br Warning abo... (show quote)

Because that is something people usually don't do in the first place (using a build-in flash at wide angel setting). That is a common thing and has nothing to do with just this camera.

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Oct 10, 2013 15:58:08   #
Beagleman Loc: Indiana
 
I looked at reviews and You Tube videos on this camera and the only warning that I got was not to elevate the ISO too high or you would get more than average graininess or "noise". Most said though that with the large aperture throughout, high ISOs would not be necessary. None that I read/viewed picked up on this possible shadow.

--Beagleman

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Oct 10, 2013 16:14:59   #
Bubu Loc: Out of this solar system
 
It is normal for any wide angle lens.

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Oct 10, 2013 16:54:19   #
Searcher Loc: Kent, England
 
It's a tulip hood - is it on the correct way round?

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Oct 10, 2013 18:43:40   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Why would you be using a lens hood and flash together anyway?

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Oct 10, 2013 20:41:44   #
Photog
 
Specters,

Who uses a hood with a flash? And all your care to explain something very,very few folks are likely to do any way.- the Lumix FZ200 remains a great point and shoot camera.

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Oct 10, 2013 20:58:08   #
Budnjax Loc: NE Florida
 
This is very common to any camera with a built-in flash and a long lens and/or a lens hood. I have 3 Canon crop factor camera bodies with built-in flash and they will all have the same problem you mention....no way to avoid it except by using an off-camera or ring lite flash or use a lens short enough not to make the flash cast a shadow and don't use a lens hood. I have a FZ70 and it has a hot shoe so I assume the FZ200 has one, too.

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Oct 11, 2013 01:04:07   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Walter1949 wrote:
For Photography Enthusiasts.

Warning about Panasonic newest baby Lumix DMC-FZ200 Point and Shoot Camera.
The newest baby by Panasonic in photography world is Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, point and shoot camera.
It would have been electronical and technological marvel for $600.00. With Lens by Leica which for those who know a little bit about lenses and cameras are one of the best optics in the World.
It would have been if not for one small flaw but very annoying one which Panasonic for some reason, strangely did not noticed or forgot to mention to those who decided to buy this camera. Like yours truly.
It has to be a specific situation to be photograph for the photographer to notice the flaw and it is possible only after the picture was taken and very often after it was transfer to home computer.
The picture taken has to be with wide angle, built in flash has to be use, and lens has to have lens hood attached.
The black shadow will be the biggest when the lens is at 25mm focus . (wide angle) and it will get smaller towards 50mm. And than there is no problem up to 600mm.
When taking picture with lens at 25mm (wide angle) and using build in flash during exposure the upper part of the lens hood will cast a big black half circular shadow in too the middle of the bottom edge of the picture. Which will be permanent and it will happened every time the picture is taken in those conditions by anyone with every Lumix FZ200 camera still on the market and already at homes. .
This result will occur also when taking macro photography if we use built in flash and lens hood.
I e-mail Panasonic 4 or 5 times. So far not even once have I received a satisfactory answer or useful information or anything. I called the number Panasonic provided on Internet around five times. Panasonic didn't even have the guts to pick up the phone and talk with me.
Panasonic’s respond to one of my e –mail on this subject was. - use external light instead of built in flash. You absolutely right. That does solve the problem because I have tried it and it did worked. The problem with this solution is guys that this is POINT AND SHOOT camera. Not a studio camera. Let’s say there is a group of people who would like have their picture taken together. We are inside. Space is limited we have to use wide angle and we know what the result of that will be.
So, what people at Panasonic suggesting is getting additional light and forget about built in flash. If we want the picture to come out nice we need good strong light. That may take some effort organizing. We did not buy POINT AND SHOOT camera to worry about additional lighting. By the way the Lumix FZ200 is quite capable of handling this situation lightening ways except for that black shadow.
That is what in my opinion Panasonic should be working on. How to get rid of black shadow from pictures taken in certain situations.

Or, we can take the lens hood off. Panasonic did not suggest that. This is my three cents. Of course I still realize that the lens hood is there for a reason. Not because it looks pretty.
In one of the Panasonic's responds to my many of e-mails to them, they try to explain to me what is lens hood and what is its purpose. Thank you Ladies and Gentleman at Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200 point and shoot camera for that insightful explanation. But I have been taking pictures all my life as a professional and now as an amateur, and I know what the lens hood is and what its purpose is.
You point you shoot, and the picture should come out beautiful. Shouldn't it. And believe or not in most instances they do, because it is a pretty good little camera. Except that one time when we use wide angle, built in flash and lens hood. I can guarantee you, that every time we will take this picture, we will get big black shadow in the middle of the bottom of the picture.
I am posting this in my News Paper in the "Letters do the Editor" just to worn people against buying Lumix DMC-FZ200 to save them disappointment and aggravation of dealing with the company later on. Trust me it is not a pleasant experience. Besides, the camera cost $600.00. For a lot of people it is a lot of money. So for that kind of money they expect trouble free sailing. Which they will not get if they buy Lumix DMC-FZ200.


One thing I cannot understand thought is a fact that Panasonic , one of the biggest company in the World in photo technology did mist something so obvious.

Regards,
For Photography Enthusiasts. br br Warning abo... (show quote)

Almost all cameras will do that under the same circumstances.

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Oct 11, 2013 06:46:27   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Is this a whine and cheese party?

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Oct 11, 2013 08:03:10   #
hb3 Loc: Texas
 
A common problem with many cameras when using the built in flash. Take the hood off when indoors and start having fun rather than frustration...life is too short....

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Oct 11, 2013 08:57:15   #
schuchmn
 
jethro779 wrote:
Why would you be using a lens hood and flash together anyway?


Well, remember that this is a P&S camera, although an advanced one. When a P&S user moves indoors and needs the flash, the user might not think about removing the hood.

I haven't seen the manual for the Panasonic in question, but I'm pretty sure that any camera that I've ever owned with a pop-up flash had warnings in the manual about flash and lens hoods. It would be an omission on Panasonic's part if they left that out of the FZ200 manual.

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Oct 11, 2013 09:12:42   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
sb wrote:
Is this a whine and cheese party?


who brought the cheese?

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Oct 11, 2013 10:10:33   #
Walter1949
 
Well "speters" I did and I didn't know. Thanks for comment. Walter1949

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Oct 11, 2013 10:17:12   #
Walter1949
 
Thanks "searcher" for comment. Yes I know it is a tulip and yes it was the right way around. There is no other way except bigger part on the top or bottom. W1949

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