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Oct 6, 2013 12:11:24   #
Sac-Jack Loc: Sacramento, Ca
 
The Question Of The Year!!!!??

We are always hearing about how Social Security is going to run out of money.


Why don't we hear hear that Welfare is going to run out of money?

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Oct 6, 2013 12:16:52   #
katwilphoto Loc: Beaverton Oregon
 
Sac-Jack wrote:
The Question Of The Year!!!!??

We are always hearing about how Social Security is going to run out of money.


Why don't we hear hear that Welfare is going to run out of money?


There are a couple of answers for this. The most rational is that "Welfare" is not nationalized, and is state/county/city funded.

A sarcastic answer is, 'There are always people who 'need' it, and there are some real tear-jerker stories for your morning news show that guilt us into providing it.'

But that is considering your question was not based in being profound. :mrgreen:

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Oct 6, 2013 12:39:29   #
NorthwoodsCynic Loc: Wisconsin
 
1) What does this have to do with photography?
2) Those of us who have gravitated to this website have a lot of time (perhaps too much!) on our hands. Also, we can afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on photo gear. Bear in mind that no one ever died for lack of a Canon or Nikon or Leica. People have died due to lack of food (although the average American is overweight or obese) or lack of money to pay for heat in the winter. As income inequality and net worth inequality increase, a society becomes increasingly unstable. The American society - even with our vaunted "exceptionalism" - is not immune.

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Oct 6, 2013 13:20:37   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
NorthwoodsCynic wrote:
1) What does this have to do with photography?
2) Those of us who have gravitated to this website have a lot of time (perhaps too much!) on our hands. Also, we can afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on photo gear. Bear in mind that no one ever died for lack of a Canon or Nikon or Leica. People have died due to lack of food (although the average American is overweight or obese) or lack of money to pay for heat in the winter. As income inequality and net worth inequality increase, a society becomes increasingly unstable. The American society - even with our vaunted "exceptionalism" - is not immune.
1) What does this have to do with photography? br ... (show quote)


Lighten up and look at the category this was posted in, its appropriate here even though it has nothing to do with photography.

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Oct 6, 2013 13:24:02   #
Sac-Jack Loc: Sacramento, Ca
 
NorthwoodsCynic wrote:
1) What does this have to do with photography?
2) Those of us who have gravitated to this website have a lot of time (perhaps too much!) on our hands. Also, we can afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on photo gear. Bear in mind that no one ever died for lack of a Canon or Nikon or Leica. People have died due to lack of food (although the average American is overweight or obese) or lack of money to pay for heat in the winter. As income inequality and net worth inequality increase, a society becomes increasingly unstable. The American society - even with our vaunted "exceptionalism" - is not immune.
1) What does this have to do with photography? br ... (show quote)


For one thing I thought this is off the topic section and yes I as well Have spent thousands of dollars on my equipment as well and love photography very much sense I was a small child. I just get tired of the government holding social security over our heads every time they want something. I feel for my kids right now as they have to get health insurance so they have to decide to either drop auto insurance and sell the car or not get the health insurance because they can't afford both.

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Oct 6, 2013 13:59:39   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
NorthwoodsCynic wrote:
1) What does this have to do with photography?
2) Those of us who have gravitated to this website have a lot of time (perhaps too much!) on our hands. Also, we can afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on photo gear. Bear in mind that no one ever died for lack of a Canon or Nikon or Leica. People have died due to lack of food (although the average American is overweight or obese) or lack of money to pay for heat in the winter. As income inequality and net worth inequality increase, a society becomes increasingly unstable. The American society - even with our vaunted "exceptionalism" - is not immune.
1) What does this have to do with photography? br ... (show quote)


You ask what dose this have to do with photographic then you give your opinion. Welcome to the Non-Photographic chit-chat. You just answered your own question.

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Oct 6, 2013 14:15:29   #
NorthwoodsCynic Loc: Wisconsin
 
1) Who are the "they" who want something? Didn't we elect these parasites who are getting paid while 800,000 of our fellow Americans are currently on "furlough"?
2) At some point your children will want or need medical care. Who will pay for it? A day in an ICU can cost $10,000. (That's quite a few Nikons!)

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Oct 6, 2013 15:57:02   #
mwoods222 Loc: Newburg N.Y,
 
Well said

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Oct 6, 2013 16:37:28   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
NorthwoodsCynic wrote:
1) What does this have to do with photography?
2) Those of us who have gravitated to this website have a lot of time (perhaps too much!) on our hands. Also, we can afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on photo gear. Bear in mind that no one ever died for lack of a Canon or Nikon or Leica. People have died due to lack of food (although the average American is overweight or obese) or lack of money to pay for heat in the winter. As income inequality and net worth inequality increase, a society becomes increasingly unstable. The American society - even with our vaunted "exceptionalism" - is not immune.
1) What does this have to do with photography? br ... (show quote)
1). Nothing.
2). True.

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Oct 6, 2013 17:39:37   #
NorthwoodsCynic Loc: Wisconsin
 
Thank you.

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Oct 6, 2013 18:31:51   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
NorthwoodsCynic wrote:

2) At some point your children will want or need medical care. Who will pay for it? A day in an ICU can cost $10,000


Shouldn't they pay for it? If not them, then who?

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Oct 6, 2013 19:06:50   #
NorthwoodsCynic Loc: Wisconsin
 
Yes, exactly. But if they're uninsured, will they be able to write a check for the mega-bucks of a hospital stay? Probably not!

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Oct 6, 2013 19:20:26   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Here's a wake up call if you haven't figured it out yet. Every uninsured patient that is treated at a hospital and can't pay his bill causes those who can pay, whether directly or through an insurance carrier to pay more to make up the difference.
That's why the Heritage Foundation suggested the mandate in the first place. If you're against the mandate you are in effect against personal responsibility.
And yet the Conservatives have taken that position.
Odd, don't you think?

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Oct 6, 2013 19:24:54   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Frank T wrote:
If you're against the mandate you are in effect against personal responsibility.


That is a logical impossibility. Nobody I know takes that position.

The fact that people can get care at a hospital even if they are uninsured is due to another law. That law is what forces others to pay for someone's care.

If you are for the mandate, you believe people should be forced to buy a product. That is a direct violation of personal autonomy.

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Oct 7, 2013 05:17:07   #
rebel hiker Loc: Sanford, FLorida & Banner Elk, North Carolina
 
Kombiguy wrote:
That is a logical impossibility. Nobody I know takes that position.

The fact that people can get care at a hospital even if they are uninsured is due to another law. That law is what forces others to pay for someone's care.

If you are for the mandate, you believe people should be forced to buy a product. That is a direct violation of personal autonomy.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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