Lite Scoop vs Rogue Flash Bender: Anybody have an opinion between the Lite Scoop and the Rogue Flash Bender or softbox kit? The Flash bender seems more versatile but some say it's...

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

Anybody have an opinion between the Lite Scoop and the Rogue Flash Bender or softbox kit? The Flash bender seems more versatile but some say it's heavy. I do shoot events in dark rooms with high ceilings and not sure I really like any of the solutions I've used besides of hand holding a sheet of copy paper over my flash.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/811481-REG/LITE_GENIUS_LITE_SCOOP_Lite_Scoop_Flash_Modifier.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=986284&is=REG&Q=&A=details

Sheila Loc: Arizona or New York

Don't have any knowledge of Lite Scoop but have a Rogue FlashBender. Asyou know it bends into different shapes and has three flexible rods that are joined like a three pronged fork. The weight is 5.5 oz certainly heavier than a piece of paper but it may be attached to your flash and rolled into a snoot like shape as well. I have the larger of two sizes available when purchased.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

I have both and prefer the LiteGenius Light Scoop.
Not sure what size I have.
Lighter, and I think it mounts better.
I shoot dimly lit events with high ceilings as well.
Lots of drag-shutter...as slow as 1/15th sec.

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

Sheila wrote:

Don't have any knowledge of Lite Scoop but have a Rogue FlashBender. Asyou know it bends into different shapes and has three flexible rods that are joined like a three pronged fork. The weight is 5.5 oz certainly heavier than a piece of paper but it may be attached to your flash and rolled into a snoot like shape as well. I have the larger of two sizes available when purchased.

Thanks. It seemed versatile and with the diffusion panel, would make a decent size softbox a little farther off axis.

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

GoofyNewfie wrote:

I have both and prefer the LiteGenius Light Scoop.
Not sure what size I have.
Lighter, and I think it mounts better.
I shoot dimly lit events with high ceilings as well.
Lots of drag-shutter...as slow as 1/15th sec.

Well I had been leaning towards the Flash Bender after looking at a little softbox that felt like it might be yet another accessory that I might move on from in search of something I can use in a variety of situations. Some reviewers have said the it's too heavy though. With your recommendation, I may switch to the Lite Scoop.

BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA

Recent specs put the scoop at 1 oz and the Flash Bender at 6.1 oz. Both seem light by my standards.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

JBTaylor wrote:

Anybody have an opinion between the Lite Scoop and... (show quote)

I know this is not quite the answer but have you thought about...neither?

Give some thought to bouncing flash with a flag ala Neil Van Neikerk's black foamie thing.

Soft-Side lighting bliss for under $1.00.

http://neilvn.com/tangents/the-black-foamie-thing/

jjestar Loc: Savannah GA

I think the flash bender reflects more of the lite and is also more versatile.

Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada

I prefer the Lite-Scoop because with it's fixed position reflector the exposure and results are more consistent, and the mat finished reflector produces softer light. With all my heavy gear, every 5 ounces of weight I can eliminate is a helpful also.
Check out the results here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps3jw2gkosA&feature=share&list=TLCXSgN0xe4hA

photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida

Lite scoop and flash bender and Gary Fong's things tend to get in my way. I've just been using a Stofen for under $20, and I find it very versatile.

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

rpavich wrote:

I know this is not quite the answer but have you thought about...neither?

Give some thought to bouncing flash with a flag ala Neil Van Neikerk's black foamie thing.

Soft-Side lighting bliss for under $1.00.

http://neilvn.com/tangents/the-black-foamie-thing/

What a coincidence! My son just mentioned this to me a couple days ago and sent me to the same site. I am going to do that for different situation when I have light ceiling or walls to work with. It addresses exactly the issues I have encountered with not being able to bounce some directions without unwanted spill or flashing someone behind me. I haven't stopped at the local craft store yet but I found this option on Amazon is fulfilled by Amazon so it can be added on to an order for free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Foam-Sheet-X12-2mm-Black-pack/dp/B005M2Q9MO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378248712&sr=8-1&keywords=Foam+Sheet+9%22X12%22+2mm-Black+10+per+pack

Thanks for mentioning it.

But the reason I am looking at these other products is for when I am working in rooms with dark walls or ceilings or outdoors in some cases though I have found I lose a lot of power when moving away from a direct zoomable flash.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

JBTaylor wrote:

What a coincidence! My son just mentioned this to... (show quote)

I started using that "black foamy thing technique" a while ago from a tip here.
The results look like I went to extreme measures to light the subject.
Works great... when you have something to bounce off of.
Sometimes I don't have the patience to wait for the light to come back from thoae high ceilings. :lol:

Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada

GoofyNewfie wrote:

I started using that "black foamy thing technique" a while ago from a tip here.
The results look like I went to extreme measures to light the subject.
Works great... when you have something to bounce off of.
Sometimes I don't have the patience to wait for the light to come back from thoae high ceilings. :lol:

I do the same only with a black foamy snoot, and aim for the nearest corner where the wall meets the ceiling. I move my subject slightly to get the desired angle. My only limitation, like mentioned by GN is that I only use it with white, normal height ceilings and neutral colored walls. Bright colored walls and high or dark ceilings just don't work for me.

Limited application . . but beautiful results under the right circumstances!

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

Thanks for all the opinions and info. I suspect I will own both by some point. I can see different advantages in both and maybe there is no substitute for just trying them. The question is which will be first. Next engagement is outside.

I will definitely be getting the black foamie thingy.

Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada

JBTaylor wrote:

Thanks for all the opinions and info. I suspect I will own both by some point. I can see different advantages in both and maybe there is no substitute for just trying them. The question is which will be first. Next engagement is outside.

I will definitely be getting the black foamie thingy.

Foamy thing and the snoot that I use are useless outside . . nothing to bounce from. Lite-Scoop is good inside and out.