What's the right thing to do?
Sep 11, 2011 14:02:11 #
Is there a correct, wrong, or rude thing to do in regard to tweaking the picture of another if the purpose is only to add it to the original post for the sake of comparison. Should one ask each time to each person or just flat never do it? Myself I care little either way - if some feel it helps make a point then I'm all for it. How about you?
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Sep 11, 2011 14:17:24 #
I think it is better to ask first untill you get to know a person through responding vis posts.for example you can edit any of mine you like, I respect your talent and will not be offended even if I don't like the editing. But we have an established relationship and I consider you a friend and a photographer who i admire and respect. So far you and strubles have been lucky all the poeople whose photos you have worked on didn't object, But it is only a matter of time before you hit a prima donna ( I have already met 2) on this site whos gonna scream bloody murder and make your life hell. Better safe than sorry ask first. :thumbup:
Sep 11, 2011 15:05:39 #
Sep 11, 2011 19:16:39 #
Seeing is believing. If I'm commenting on another person's photo and am suggesting changes to improve the photo I'll edit and post the before and after side by side. I'll offer instructions on how the edit was done.
If a photo is flat tonally a levels adjustment makes all the difference in the world. Those who view my photos know I prefer photos that pop right off the screen. Low contrast, flat tonal range photos are boring. I don't always post a side by side comparison by I won't hesitate to do so.
If a photo is flat tonally a levels adjustment makes all the difference in the world. Those who view my photos know I prefer photos that pop right off the screen. Low contrast, flat tonal range photos are boring. I don't always post a side by side comparison by I won't hesitate to do so.
Sep 12, 2011 05:46:20 #
If it makes me better, go ahead and do whatever you want. I came here to improve. If my work didn't need tweaking, then I don't think I would be here..... If you are going to publish your work in any form, better be ready to have your work criticized, modified, commented on, reworked, etc. If I'm working as an editor, I'm going to make the image work for whatever use I need it for... So, I would think that the best way would be to accept the direction for what it was intended and move on. Improve, do better, become more accomplished, that's the point...
Sep 12, 2011 06:22:20 #
Scott Kelby, renowned author, photographer, educator and president of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals) Runs a live online talk show called "The Grid". One of his topics a few weeks ago dealt with [b]unsolicited[/] Critique, Criticism & Comment.
The danger & problem with online critique is the competency of the person giving a "constructive" evaluation of a posted photograph. I feel strongly that forums need a separate section for Critique so that there's no doubt one is requested by the poster. I do see a lot of folks posting here that ask for opinions up front. In that event it's solicited.
Critique, Comment & Criticism are all very different terms.
The danger & problem with online critique is the competency of the person giving a "constructive" evaluation of a posted photograph. I feel strongly that forums need a separate section for Critique so that there's no doubt one is requested by the poster. I do see a lot of folks posting here that ask for opinions up front. In that event it's solicited.
Critique, Comment & Criticism are all very different terms.
Sep 12, 2011 07:41:27 #
I agree with this statement. If I post anything on this site or any other site like it, I feel that I am shareing the photo with anybody to do what they want to with it. If I didn't want someone messing with it I would at least add a watermark. This would be a way of saying hands off.
sinatraman wrote:
I think it is better to ask first untill you get t... (show quote)
Sep 12, 2011 07:44:34 #
Scott Kelby, renowned author, photographer, educator and president of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals) Runs a live online talk show called "The Grid". One of his topics a few weeks ago dealt with [b]unsolicited[/] Critique, Criticism & Comment
Could you give me the website on this
Could you give me the website on this
Sep 12, 2011 07:48:06 #
[quote=Chris]Scott Kelby, renowned author, photographer, educator and president of NAPP (National Association of Photoshop Professionals) Runs a live online talk show called "The Grid". One of his topics a few weeks ago dealt with [b]unsolicited[/] Critique, Criticism & Comment
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Here's the site. http://kelbytv.com/ You might have to look back a few shows to get the topic mentioned. WARNING! This is a live talk show. If you are worried about the show being over an hour in length or that the gang there jokes around a lot, don't watch.
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Here's the site. http://kelbytv.com/ You might have to look back a few shows to get the topic mentioned. WARNING! This is a live talk show. If you are worried about the show being over an hour in length or that the gang there jokes around a lot, don't watch.
Sep 12, 2011 07:50:10 #
Sep 12, 2011 07:57:16 #
I think it's a good policy to ask before taking another's pic and altering it, and then reposting the changed version. It is after all, their work.
Besides in this sue happy age, you never know if someone tries to drag you into court for copyright infringement; even if you aren't claiming their original or the reworked version as your own. I have did a few touch ups to others pics when I was demonstrating certain functions of Paint Shop Photo Pro to them, and others have also done the same with my work, but none of us (at least to my knowlege) would take credit for the original creation.
I don't mind if someone does an enhancement to one of my pics as long as they don't mind sharing the "trick" they did to it to make it a better pic.
I know how to manipulate photos, blend multiple pictures into a "dreamscape", but I come here to learn the photo process before the editing and the short time I have been here, I've learned quite a bit from everyone's contribution one way or another.
Besides in this sue happy age, you never know if someone tries to drag you into court for copyright infringement; even if you aren't claiming their original or the reworked version as your own. I have did a few touch ups to others pics when I was demonstrating certain functions of Paint Shop Photo Pro to them, and others have also done the same with my work, but none of us (at least to my knowlege) would take credit for the original creation.
I don't mind if someone does an enhancement to one of my pics as long as they don't mind sharing the "trick" they did to it to make it a better pic.
I know how to manipulate photos, blend multiple pictures into a "dreamscape", but I come here to learn the photo process before the editing and the short time I have been here, I've learned quite a bit from everyone's contribution one way or another.
Sep 12, 2011 07:57:40 #
Chris wrote:
Thank you
Joking around is fine with me.
Joking around is fine with me.
The reason I gave the warning is that I posted a thread with a link to KelbyTV on another photographic forum & got flamed by a couple of jokers who didn't like the length of the show or the fooling around. They claimed it was a waste of their bandwidth. Hey, it's an unscripted live show.
Sep 12, 2011 08:02:17 #
Eugene wrote:
I agree with this statement. If I post anything on... (show quote)
I agree Eugene, adding a watermark to a photo one doesn't want changed is a good way of saying hands off. If you post a non watermarked photo and you ask comments on how to improve it, then the earlier stated position I hold is fine to me. Enhance away, but let me know what you did to improve it so I can learn too.
Sep 12, 2011 08:02:57 #
Perry wrote:
I think it's a good policy to ask before taking an... (show quote)
I'm here to share and learn. I've got a lot of experience that could really help new photographers and veterans as well. I, personally, never stop learning. I really admire a well taken, well processed photo. I'm totally humbled on some of the forums I frequent. Check out ShutterFreaks sometimes if you want to see the upper crust. I'm new here and want to contribute while continuing to grow.
Sep 12, 2011 08:10:53 #
LEWISHINE wrote:
If it makes me better, go ahead and do whatever yo... (show quote)
Yes this forum is not merely an "art gallery", but a forum to learn more about photography. I don't mind someone critiquing my work or modifying it as long as it's constructive... That meaning if someone gives me a tip, or shows me one with one of my photos, I feel that person has imparted valuable knowlege to me and I appreciate their time invested in me to make me a better photographer. Someone who is being a troll, or who steals someone's work to call it their own so as to profit from your work, is not cool; and I would hope the administrator of this site would boot such a person off of it.
I don't think this site has had any real problems with that since everyone I've met here for the most part are interested in sharing knowlege and becoming better photographers. I've seen some real beautiful pictures come through here, some way better than mine, so I want to rub shoulders with those who know how to take these breath takers.
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