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Aug 7, 2013 06:55:05   #
kaz6756 Loc: Canarsie,Brooklyn, New York
 
lighthouse wrote:
Astrology?


I got this, I don't know what you are talking about, he has it right....ASTRONOMY
Superzoom lenses are getting longer and longer, now we're up to X50. Unless you are into wildlife or astronomy I can see little point in using massive zoom lenses.

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Aug 7, 2013 07:00:09   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
johneccles wrote:
IN PART: Superzoom ... Unless you are into wildlife or astrology I can see little point in using massive zoom lenses. ... I am ready to be enlightened, John

I advocate the end to the beginning analytical approach to finding need. In Process and Product dev engineering, I used this backward approach, what is your end product then work toward the raw materials used.

For your needs you have the ideal, the long reach, is also the Kodak classically suggested (84mm) portrait lens and of course the short mm (24mm) for landscape/architecture.

So, why long reach mm zooms? Yep, moon shot, but after doing it one then waits for a change... aaaah... looks he same for my life time, better to download from NASA.

Long reach justification: to grab something you can not reach (other side of a river), avoid danger (two women fighting), be non-obvious (near nude gal at the beach), and all mm points in between. My camera is a Panasonic DMC-ZS20, 20X, 14mp. Size is about like pack of kingsize cigarettes and thus I carry my world in a belt pack along with a stack of filters and my phone and ID. Every thing there 24/7.

At the time I bought the ZS20 the large sensor Sony only had a 3x..!! by the time you cropped the superior sensor photo to find that spot the 20x grabbed, sensor advantage was lost.

I hope this explains why we crazy people by those long zooms. No, not crazy we have rational justification.

The photo was taken while I was at a bus stop 2 blocks away from the incident. The insert shows the height of the building; the 10x (Pan. DMC-TZ3 camera) close up shows workmen in casual danger of a long Argentinian fall!

OSHA WHERE ARE YOU
OSHA WHERE ARE YOU...

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Aug 7, 2013 07:08:00   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Yeh, I got it right too.
Perhaps you would like to read more of the thread.

kaz6756 wrote:
I got this, I don't know what you are talking about, he has it right....ASTRONOMY
Superzoom lenses are getting longer and longer, now we're up to X50. Unless you are into wildlife or astronomy I can see little point in using massive zoom lenses.

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Aug 7, 2013 07:13:27   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
kaz6756 wrote:
I got this, I don't know what you are talking about, he has it right....ASTRONOMY
Superzoom lenses are getting longer and longer, now we're up to X50. Unless you are into wildlife or astronomy I can see little point in using massive zoom lenses.


read my last post

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Aug 7, 2013 07:17:08   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
remember 50x zooms are not 50x zooms.

Most of the time now they quote a zoom being the full "available" length from wide angle to full telephoto, when it used to be, and is still accepted that 50mm or the equal to 50mm is what the eye sees (ok as near as makes no odds)and the ZOOM was from 50mm not below that.

So a zoom "range from say 18mm/20mm28mm to 300/500mm is NOT a 50 x zoom it is the range

Focal length (equiv.) 24–1200 mm
Optical zoom 50×

So they are taking the full range not from 50mm

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Aug 7, 2013 07:55:54   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
rpavich wrote:
I guess it's because people think that they might miss a photo-op so they have to be ready for the 10mm ultra wide landscape, or the 10 mile away 2000mm airplane shot....at a moment's notice.

I've never fully understood that mind-set, where you feel like you might miss a once in a lifetime shot so you strap on your 10-2000 super zoom lens as a walkaround.

I know others love that sort of thing but it's never made sense to me.


Who makes that 10-2000? :-)
Is it a 2.8? :lol:
How much does it cost? :-P

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Aug 7, 2013 08:04:36   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
I prefer primes to...and taking the time to enjoy the walk closer to my subject.

Granted I do own a 50-200 (plus a 1.4 extender, which makes it a 283mm f/5 on the tele end), but rarely do I need that reach. I used to own a 135-400 (560mm with the adaptor), but I would have to stop down the lens so much to get it sharp, that it wasn't realistic to use it...although it did work quite well for photographing the moon :-)

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Aug 7, 2013 08:04:47   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
traveler90712 wrote:
Who makes that 10-2000? :-)
Is it a 2.8? :lol:
How much does it cost? :-P


Why Canon of course! ...but it misses focus frequently :-)

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Aug 7, 2013 08:37:12   #
John Lawrence
 
johneccles wrote:
Superzoom lenses are getting longer and longer, now we're upto X50. Unless you are into wildlife or astronomy I can see little point in using massive zoom lenses.
I am mostly interested in landscapes, street scenes and architecture for which I have a 38 mm Prime lens and a 28 - 84 mm zoom. I use the prime lens 95% of the time, and only use the zoom lens when I need a wider angle.
I am ready to be enlightened, John


My photography interests are similar to your own - people (mostly grandchildren), interesting places and landscapes. I've been shooting with a 50mm lens for 50 years and have never felt handicapped. I ordered a zoom last week and sent it back. It's all what you're accustomed to using. Enjoy.

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Aug 7, 2013 08:57:33   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
my 70-200 2.8 lens is as heavy as i want to get in to.

if i win the lottery, i'll hire an assistant to carry anything heavier.

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Aug 7, 2013 09:42:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
johneccles wrote:

I am ready to be enlightened, John


Besides focal length, the quality has improved. For the price and ease of carrying, the Canon SX50 is a wonderful option!

If you ever become interested in the smaller delights of nature that prefer you not get too close:









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Aug 7, 2013 10:59:46   #
John Lawrence
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Besides focal length, the quality has improved. For the price and ease of carrying, the Canon SX50 is a wonderful option!

If you ever become interested in the smaller delights of nature that prefer you not get too close:


Those are wonderful shots, Linda. Thanks for sharing.

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Aug 7, 2013 15:41:01   #
jimberton Loc: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Besides focal length, the quality has improved. For the price and ease of carrying, the Canon SX50 is a wonderful option!

If you ever become interested in the smaller delights of nature that prefer you not get too close:


wow...great shots!!

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Aug 7, 2013 16:38:20   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
Hi Linda, I see your point, you shots show the main reason for a super zoom lens. Lovely photographs by the way.
Cheers, John

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Aug 7, 2013 17:18:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
johneccles wrote:
Hi Linda, I see your point, you shots show the main reason for a super zoom lens. Lovely photographs by the way.
Cheers, John


Another convert???

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