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Aug 1, 2013 15:16:10   #
nikonnut Loc: Las Vegas
 
jackm1943 wrote:
I have a couple of medium format cameras and a 4x5 that I still use in addition to my DSLR stuff. I develop the B/W film then scan and PP with Photoshop and other software, and then have them printed commercially.

I find it interesting that, after they go thru a digital scan step, the finished images have a different look than DSLR origin images. I can ony describe the film based images as "less crisp" than DSLR based images, but maybe that's just due to my scanning hardware, I really don't know.
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No I believe that is just the nature of the beast. I don't believe you can get that sort of crispness with film. Maybe I'm wrong but that is what I think.

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Aug 1, 2013 16:17:47   #
wildconc2001 Loc: Chicagoland
 
jackm1943 wrote:
I have a couple of medium format cameras and a 4x5 that I still use in addition to my DSLR stuff. I develop the B/W film then scan and PP with Photoshop and other software, and then have them printed commercially.

I find it interesting that, after they go thru a digital scan step, the finished images have a different look than DSLR origin images. I can ony describe the film based images as "less crisp" than DSLR based images, but maybe that's just due to my scanning hardware, I really don't know.
I have a couple of medium format cameras and a 4x5... (show quote)


The reason that you see this is that the process of digitizing a slide or negative creates a loss of sharpness which is why sharpening is a must in post processing.

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Aug 1, 2013 20:02:39   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
I do sharpen in PP of course, but there is still a difference. I've attached an example where the same image was captured by a DSLR and by my Rolleiflex 2.8 Planar. Think I prefer the film image, but I am happy with both.

wildconc2001 wrote:
The reason that you see this is that the process of digitizing a slide or negative creates a loss of sharpness which is why sharpening is a must in post processing.

DSLR origin
DSLR origin...

Film origin
Film origin...

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Aug 1, 2013 21:11:44   #
wildconc2001 Loc: Chicagoland
 
jackm1943 wrote:
I do sharpen in PP of course, but there is still a difference. I've attached an example where the same image was captured by a DSLR and by my Rolleiflex 2.8 Planar. Think I prefer the film image, but I am happy with both.


I understand what you're saying and of course there's a difference in the look of the images. I haven't used my 4x5 or 120's In a while but I still scan the older stuff as I need them. The scanner software does different things with each type of scanner so the look I get is different with 4x5's on my Epson flatbed than with 35's on the Plustek scanner and then it's my job in post to fine tune. Film, of course, has grain, and the digital images do not so a difference is also seen there. I suppose there really is no answer other then that post processing skills are important.

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Aug 1, 2013 21:23:48   #
Racin17 Loc: Western Pa
 
I think the first one is sharper.

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Aug 3, 2013 11:02:53   #
misplaced Texan Loc: Texas Gulf coast
 
Just kinda re-entering the photography hobby after a bunch of years... When we moved about seven years ago I sold/gave away all my darkroom processing items........ I do have a Canon DSLR but, also have a couple of the older Canon film cameras.

I recently exposed a roll of C-41 process film and Walgreen's developed in about 25 minutes for 6 dollars....I scanned the ones I thought best using HP Scanjet 3970 which includes a four frame negative/positive scan capability. Good results but, I can see even at six dollars every 24 exposure roll could get expensive.

I used to develop both E-6 and C-41 along with black & white .....which might be in my future again.....The bottleneck seems to be the availability of bulk film, bulk film loader and empty cartridges.

Any thoughts?

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Aug 3, 2013 11:55:54   #
wildconc2001 Loc: Chicagoland
 
misplaced Texan wrote:
Just kinda re-entering the photography hobby after a bunch of years... When we moved about seven years ago I sold/gave away all my darkroom processing items........ I do have a Canon DSLR but, also have a couple of the older Canon film cameras.

I recently exposed a roll of C-41 process film and Walgreen's developed in about 25 minutes for 6 dollars....I scanned the ones I thought best using HP Scanjet 3970 which includes a four frame negative/positive scan capability. Good results but, I can see even at six dollars every 24 exposure roll could get expensive.

Looks like regardless of what the film lovers say, as time goes on it will be more and more difficult to use film. A lot of good things have gone away over the years-- unfortunately, or fortunately depending on one's view, that's called progress.

I used to develop both E-6 and C-41 along with black & white .....which might be in my future again.....The bottleneck seems to be the availability of bulk film, bulk film loader and empty cartridges.

Any thoughts?
Just kinda re-entering the photography hobby after... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2013 11:58:43   #
wildconc2001 Loc: Chicagoland
 
Don't know how that happened with my post so let's try again.
Looks like regardless of what the film lovers say, as time goes on it will be more and more difficult to use film. A lot of good things have gone away over the years-- unfortunately, or fortunately depending on one's view, that's called progress. Personally, I loved my darkroom and using large format film and now I love using Adobe Photoshop.

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