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Apr 27, 2013 11:04:22   #
KevinT
 
Hello fellow UHH'ers...

My main focus in photography is Equine and during the winter months here in Ohio most of my photos are indoors during training sessions for horse and rider. The arena has very little light so I work in some very high iso ranges (1000- 1600) which of course gives a lot of noise.

Anyway, I have spent a lot of time these past few months working on and finding programs to Denoise the photos. The photos below were processed using Canon's DPP program for minor adjustments like exposure, and then in LR (4) to remove any chromatic aberration and any other minor adjustments. I then transfer the photo to PS (CS5) to denies. I separate the subject from the background so that I can adjust the noise separately at different levels. No other processing was done after this (at this time).

The photo was shot at ISO1600, F2.8, 1/500 (Shutter priority, auto aperture and auto ISO). The first photo is the original and the following 2 are the denoise versions using 2 different software packages (Topaz Denoise and Neat Image).

What I wold like is for all of you to tell me out of the 2 denoise ones, which one you like better. Also, as always, any comments and critiques of the photo overall is always welcome.

Thanks!

Original - straight from camera
Original - straight from camera...

Denoise #1
Denoise #1...

Denoise #2
Denoise #2...

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Apr 27, 2013 11:07:59   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Denoise #1 is darker and has a better quality to the colors giving a sense of depth to horse and rider against the background.

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Apr 27, 2013 11:07:59   #
KevinT
 
I may have posted this in the wrong section, not really sure. If I did I apologize!

--KevinT

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Apr 27, 2013 12:32:33   #
GWR100 Loc: England
 
The section is fine as are the photos. I prefer No 2, less space behind the horse gives the image more impact. And considering the amount of defused light distraction in the back ground the exposure is fine. Really good image Kevin



KevinT wrote:
Hello fellow UHH'ers...

My main focus in photography is Equine and during the winter months here in Ohio most of my photos are indoors during training sessions for horse and rider. The arena has very little light so I work in some very high iso ranges (1000- 1600) which of course gives a lot of noise.

Anyway, I have spent a lot of time these past few months working on and finding programs to Denoise the photos. The photos below were processed using Canon's DPP program for minor adjustments like exposure, and then in LR (4) to remove any chromatic aberration and any other minor adjustments. I then transfer the photo to PS (CS5) to denies. I separate the subject from the background so that I can adjust the noise separately at different levels. No other processing was done after this (at this time).

The photo was shot at ISO1600, F2.8, 1/500 (Shutter priority, auto aperture and auto ISO). The first photo is the original and the following 2 are the denoise versions using 2 different software packages (Topaz Denoise and Neat Image).

What I wold like is for all of you to tell me out of the 2 denoise ones, which one you like better. Also, as always, any comments and critiques of the photo overall is always welcome.

Thanks!
Hello fellow UHH'ers... br br My main focus in ph... (show quote)

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Apr 27, 2013 12:46:09   #
Carolina Wings Loc: Flew from North Carolina to Pennsylvania
 
KevinT wrote:
I may have posted this in the wrong section, not really sure. If I did I apologize!

--KevinT


Hi Kevin...lovely Equine photo...I like the last photo for 2 reasons. The first reason is that it focuses more on the horse...the 2nd being that you want to leave more room in the front of the horse than behind. Another tip I'd like to pass along is when taking Equine photos you want to capture the action when their weight is on the hind quarters as opposed to the forehand. Nice job Kevin...I really liked the photo :thumbup:

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Apr 27, 2013 15:20:36   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
Regarding the noise reduction Denoise 1 is clearly better (if UHH is showing them accurately). Denoise 2 has a hashmark patterning going on that, to me, is very irritating. When you get enough comments on it, let us know which is which.

Great shots, great crop.

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Apr 27, 2013 15:51:48   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
The first one is better..the second one has some weird artifacts.

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Apr 28, 2013 06:06:08   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
KevinT wrote:
Hello fellow UHH'ers...

My main focus in photography is Equine and during the winter months here in Ohio most of my photos are indoors during training sessions for horse and rider. The arena has very little light so I work in some very high iso ranges (1000- 1600) which of course gives a lot of noise.

Anyway, I have spent a lot of time these past few months working on and finding programs to Denoise the photos. The photos below were processed using Canon's DPP program for minor adjustments like exposure, and then in LR (4) to remove any chromatic aberration and any other minor adjustments. I then transfer the photo to PS (CS5) to denies. I separate the subject from the background so that I can adjust the noise separately at different levels. No other processing was done after this (at this time).

The photo was shot at ISO1600, F2.8, 1/500 (Shutter priority, auto aperture and auto ISO). The first photo is the original and the following 2 are the denoise versions using 2 different software packages (Topaz Denoise and Neat Image).

What I wold like is for all of you to tell me out of the 2 denoise ones, which one you like better. Also, as always, any comments and critiques of the photo overall is always welcome.

Thanks!
Hello fellow UHH'ers... br br My main focus in ph... (show quote)


Number 2 was done using Topaz and it's quite horrible and you know why....those appalling artifacts! Topaz can do better but that's best left for another time. Experiment with the settings.

Number one was done with Neat Image and if I may say so, not to the program's best advantage.

Try going to Advanced and select sharpen and denoise from the list.

Experiment and you will learn. Cheers, Rob.

P.S. you appear to have a number of hot pixels which tend to become more prominent at higher ISO and sharpened.

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Apr 28, 2013 09:40:21   #
hamtrack Loc: Omaha NE
 
Great looking horse, beautiful rider, good composition, not so good surroundings. Get them outside for a photo would be my choice, but #2 is the better.
winterrose wrote:
Number 2 was done using Topaz and it's quite horrible and you know why....those appalling artifacts! Topaz can do better but that's best left for another time. Experiment with the settings.

Number one was done with Neat Image and if I may say so, not to the program's best advantage.

Try going to Advanced and select sharpen and denoise from the list.

Experiment and you will learn. Cheers, Rob.

P.S. you appear to have a number of hot pixels which tend to become more prominent at higher ISO and sharpened.
Number 2 was done using Topaz and it's quite horri... (show quote)

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Apr 28, 2013 10:09:10   #
Sallywho Loc: Wendell, NC
 
#1

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Apr 28, 2013 11:00:54   #
AUminer Loc: Brandon, Ms
 
St3v3M wrote:
Denoise #1 is darker and has a better quality to the colors giving a sense of depth to horse and rider against the background.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 28, 2013 12:45:25   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
Denoise #1 is better, lots of artifacting going on in Denoise #2.

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Apr 28, 2013 17:23:08   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
KevinT wrote:
Hello fellow UHH'ers...
What I wold like is for all of you to tell me out of the 2 denoise ones, which one you like better. Also, as always, any comments and critiques of the photo overall is always welcome.

Thanks!


Adobes LR4 works easier and raw files have more to work with. You jpg image took 100% to reduce all the noise.



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Apr 28, 2013 17:35:51   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Adobes LR4 works easier and raw files have more to work with. You jpg image took 100% to reduce all the noise.


The problem with excessive over processing as is very evident here is that most of the detail is wiped. Have a look at the tip of the whip...

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Apr 28, 2013 23:54:06   #
KevinT
 
gdwsr wrote:
Regarding the noise reduction Denoise 1 is clearly better (if UHH is showing them accurately). Denoise 2 has a hashmark patterning going on that, to me, is very irritating. When you get enough comments on it, let us know which is which.

Great shots, great crop.


I want to thank everyone who responded, I got some really good feedback and suggestions. Denoising seems to be a difficult thing for me, it might just be that my eyesight is not that great anymore.

Anyway, winterrose had it correct (not surprising), Denoise #1 was done using Neat Image and Denoise #2 was done with Topaz Denoise.

Personally I think Neat Image was easier to work with, but just my opinion.

Again, thank you to all.

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