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Didn't the Global Warming alarmists blame last year's drought on Climate Change?
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Apr 12, 2013 14:21:24   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
That is the problem with the whole Global warming thing.... supporters will blame any abnormalities in our climate on carbon... No matter that a sizable volcanic eruption will add more carbon to our atmosphere in one year than man has in all the years following the industrial revolution...

NOAA has released a report that states that last year's "Flash Drought" has nothing to Global Warming.

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At its peak last summer, moderate to extreme drought gripped 61 percent of the Lower 48, but a "flash drought" brought exceptionally intense conditions to the Central Great Plains. Today, a new report by the NOAA Drought Task Force and the NOAA-led National Integrated Drought Information System (NIDIS) finds natural variations in weather patterns caused this sudden “flash drought,” and is rules out global ocean conditions, as well as human-induced climate change, as major culprits.
At its peak last summer, moderate to extreme droug... (show quote)



http://cpo.noaa.gov/ClimatePrograms/ModelingAnalysisPredictionsandProjections.aspx

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Apr 12, 2013 17:13:52   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
The effects of global warming are felt more gradually - from one decade to the next. Not from one year to the next. The drought you mention is but a random fluctuation in seasonal rainfall. People who attribute such an event to global warming don't know what they are talking about... they don't really understand the mechanisms of global warming.

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Apr 12, 2013 17:17:37   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I have a dilemma. I can listen to two guys who have photography as a hobby or the world's scientific community!

Now who would you go with?

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Apr 12, 2013 17:19:20   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
rook2c4 wrote:
The effects of global warming are felt more gradually - from one decade to the next. Not from one year to the next. The drought you mention is but a random fluctuation in seasonal rainfall. People who attribute such an event to global warming don't know what they are talking about... they don't really understand the mechanisms of global warming.


Is the drop in global annual temperature since 1998 due to the mechanisms of global warming?

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Apr 12, 2013 17:22:55   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
ole sarg wrote:
I have a dilemma. I can listen to two guys who have photography as a hobby or the world's scientific community!

Now who would you go with?


I don't know..... Maybe you should follow the money...

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Apr 12, 2013 19:15:55   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
ole sarg wrote:
I have a dilemma. I can listen to two guys who have photography as a hobby or the world's scientific community!

Now who would you go with?


Go with the two Photographers. They are less likely to lie. The Climate change scientist make a living build on a lie.

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Apr 12, 2013 20:04:26   #
infocus Loc: Australia
 
[quote=Blurryeyed]That is the problem with the whole Global warming thing.... supporters will blame any abnormalities in our climate on carbon... No matter that a sizable volcanic eruption will add more carbon to our atmosphere in one year than man has in all the years following the industrial revolution...

NOAA has released a report that states that last year's "Flash Drought" has nothing to Global Warming.

In my humble opinion the problem with the whole "global warming" and "climate change" debate is that most people see them as the same thing. They are not. Climate change is real. Climate has been changing BACK and FORTH since the planet began (however that happened). But climate change has nothing to do with carbon emissions by mankind and carbon is NOT a pollutant. Look at any pollution report prepared by any weather bureau and you will not see carbon on the list. As for global warming, well we just had the coolest and wettest summer for years albeit with a few (very few) hot days. That may have been caused by climate change but it certainly wasn't global warming.

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Apr 12, 2013 20:08:52   #
infocus Loc: Australia
 
ole sarg wrote:
I have a dilemma. I can listen to two guys who have photography as a hobby or the world's scientific community!

Now who would you go with?


Certainly NOT your "worlds scientific" community. The world's scientific community do not believe in global warming - some scientists do - not the world. In fact the I.P.C.C does not have a scientist on it any more they are politicians and bureaucrats.

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Apr 12, 2013 20:14:42   #
Gnslngr
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I don't know..... Maybe you should follow the money...


What money should I follow? The trillions of dollars that big oil, big coal, big three (autos), big agriculture, etc. make pushing the idea that the pollution they cause should not be stopped and is not a threat to humankind?

Or are you saying the 3146 climatologists (over 3000 of whom believe the earth is undergoing climate change, and its cause is man) none of whom are in business with the other and who individually make oh, say 90 to 150k a year, are the money I should follow?

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Apr 12, 2013 20:22:21   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Here is a scientific fact for you.
Everyone who eats food dies.
How you interpret the data is up to you.
They thought tomatoes were poisonous.
They interpreted the data wrong.
That is just one example.

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Apr 12, 2013 22:55:10   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
infocus wrote:
As for global warming, well we just had the coolest and wettest summer for years albeit with a few (very few) hot days. That may have been caused by climate change but it certainly wasn't global warming.


I read from this source (LiveScience.com) that last year in the US was 'the hottest year on record' ???

So far 2012 is the hottest year on record in the United States, and daily temperature records have been broken all across the country as heat waves and drought — both predicted outcomes of global warming — grip the nation. LiveScience's new Heat Index blog launched July 30 tracks temperature records and extreme weather news until the heat is off.

source .... http://www.livescience.com/21952-record-temperatures-heat.html

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Apr 12, 2013 23:06:01   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I don't know..... Maybe you should follow the money...


Good advice .... seems that it's mostly coming from those pesky Koch Brothers ($120 million in the last couple of years to develop a 'climate change denial' network)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-denial-thinktanks-network

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Apr 12, 2013 23:15:33   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
TrainNut wrote:
Here is a scientific fact for you.
Everyone who eats food dies.
How you interpret the data is up to you.
They thought tomatoes were poisonous.
They interpreted the data wrong.
That is just one example.


The thing is, it takes a large group of trained, highly specialized scientists to collect, organize and understand the data. A non-scientist's "interpretion" of climate data means absolutely nothing.

I'm not sure who the "they" is supposed to represent concerning the toxicity of tomatoes. People collected data to determine if tomatoes are edible?

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Apr 13, 2013 06:34:42   #
Nickfh Loc: Cheltenham, UK
 
To quote (paraphrase) Stephen Fry on QI - The carbon emissions of the Icelandic Volcano was more than compensated for by the reduction in emissions due to all the cancelled Air Flights. As you Americans say "Go figure!"

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Apr 13, 2013 06:42:27   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
ole sarg wrote:
I have a dilemma. I can listen to two guys who have photography as a hobby or the world's scientific community!
Exactly! Everyone can have an opinion, that does not make it correct, it's just their opinion. I trust educated scientists before I listen to opinions of people who do not understand scientific facts,
Now who would you go with?

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