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Sep 25, 2023 15:43:22   #
Do you guys rather pay more on a used on than a gray market new one?
Could one with US warranty be made from the same origin as the gray market one?
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Sep 25, 2023 15:36:08   #
V2volk wrote:
Have you considered just buying a used 750 or 780?


Keh has a used on which cost just as much as a new one from 42nd Street.
How do I know the used one is not a gray market one
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Sep 25, 2023 03:16:54   #
larryepage wrote:
The issue is that minimum resale pricing is set by the importer, NikonUSA in this case, for all major camera brands. Compliance is required by the dealer agreement. A price offered by one dealer which is out of step with what other dealers are offering is a major red flag. This may be a camera without a full complement of accessories, a camera with documentation in another language, or with a battery charger not compatible with US standards. It is almost certainly a camera with a serial number which makes it ineligible for registration under US warranty protection. Nikon will also not even do paid service or repair on these cameras.

42nd Street is advertising warranty protection for this camera at prices up to $300 or more. That is further indication that this is likely an improperly impirted camera. If none of this is a problem for you, then go ahead. But do so knowing the risk you are assuming to get the low price. On the other hand, buying the warranty service or missing accessories is going to cut deeply into those expected savings. A Nikon charger for this camera (which would ordinarily be included) costs about $70. If a battery is what is missing, the cost for one like what should have been included is $60.
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Thanks for your advice, D780 uses the same battery as D610 and I bought a twin BM batteries with charger recently. So whether I will get an original battery is not that important. And warranty prices range from $200-$400.
Besides, it has an installment plan with no interest. Do I really have to worry about repair or getting an impaired product?
Even if I bought a used or refurbished one, there is no guarantee that it would not be an imported one.
https://www.42photo.com/Product/nikon-d780-24-5-megapixel-digital-camera---body/122096
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Sep 24, 2023 23:13:45   #
tramsey wrote:
42St used to be a top vender but in the past five years they've really gone down hill. I wouldn't touch em.
I just took a look at KEH and they have a d780 for about the same price. I've bought all my equipment from them and never had anything wrong - they have a ninety day return policy that they stand by but I've never had to use it. But B&H and Adorama are both top notch


thank you, they have a used one for $1335 while 42nd Street claims "brand new" for $1369
42nd Street has been in business for a long, long time, does anybody have negative against it?
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Sep 24, 2023 16:32:21   #
My fault was to hold my camera without strapping on while walking. I stumbled without seeing there were 2 steps down while walking under bright sun between buildings and high contrast shadows with my sunglasses on.
It happened on my 71 birthday. I didn't get hurt except my pride and my 8 years old D610 with my 1 month old 16-35 VR lens; the lens broke off and torn some parts from the camera body. I hope the lens seems ok but have no means to test it.
The bright side is time to upgrade to D780.
Any suggestions where to buy it. 42nd Street sells for $1369; is it a good deal?
I don't mind a used one if the price is right.
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Mar 25, 2023 05:16:29   #
Have you checked out an Insta360? I am not sure if it is the new trend. You are taking a video of everything surrounding you, so you won't miss anything.
The real technique/challenge is the after process.
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Mar 24, 2023 14:38:05   #
I have about the same amount of lens but of much lower ends quality which I acquired as used from Ebay. Most of them I hardly use or ever. I admire your enthusiasm and money is no object. Do more gears make you feel better or better pictures do?
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Mar 23, 2023 02:51:25   #
User ID wrote:
"Not see a difference" refers to image quality. Theres some small IQ edge to my 750 over my 610. "Small" means if you dont carefully look for some quality difference youll never notice any.

I dont put the two cameras into a controlled "A-B" comparision, but the 750 does seem to focus with very few small errors and the 610 seems a bit more error prone.

I routinely use very high ISO so noise is just normal to me. When youve got plenty of noise its not esspecially noticeable if one camera has just a bit more of it than another.

I *SHOULD* say something like "I pity fussy users who endlessly test image quality". I *should* say that but I dont cuz it makes me laff so hard that coffee shoots outa my nose ... okay, slight exageration.

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A "better" camera is all about better enabling the user. The IQ difference, if any, is NOT what makes better pix, its the "unshackling" of the user. Im all for better cameras. *I* can feel the user benefits. But if your 610 doesnt make *you* feel shackled then keep it. A 750 wont noticeably up your IQ and altho Ive never touched a 780 I have never read that its a real jump up imagewise from a 750.

If you want a more enabling camera, SLR deveopment has ended. The 610 is a "fairly recent" midlevel SLR. Youll hafta go beyond SLRs to find a truly more enabling camera ... and the IQ upgrade still wont seem really impressive. But the upgrade WILL be there if you love running controlled tests.

FWIW I use 610, 750, Z6 and Z7. Acoarst the Zs now get nearly all the action, but I do have solid user experience with the two SLRs. Its just that Ive moved on. As I said, I do LIKE better cameras.
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thank you, I will wait for it a little long. Isn't the later camera with a higher useable ISO has less noise with the same setting?
Meanwhile, I don't really need a better full frame without much breakthrough; I am concentrating on how to use my Insta360 efficiently.
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Mar 22, 2023 17:51:05   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Noise performance is not linear, not across ISO values for one specific camera model, nor across ISO values from different models.

Higher available ISO maybe worthless, or very usable. It depends on the camera, the exposure situation, and the photographer's needs. There are no applicable and reliable generalizations.

Again, seeing an actual result from the D610 would be the appropriate basis for discussion of the current issues and the relevant causes and possible corrective actions. It would be sad, but not unusual, to throw $1300 into another camera to achieve no tangible difference.
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Thank you, I was mistaken that a later camera with higher useable ISO would allow me to shoot at faster speed with my so so lenses. Now I have to think trice, and besides the stock market dropped today that I lost more than the used D780
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Mar 22, 2023 17:36:45   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
No, if the image was under-exposed at ISO-1000 on the D610, it probably won't look any better (and still underexposed & noisy) at ISO-3200 on the D780. Although you'll get better higher ISO performance with a newer sensor and processor, you'd likely be better served looking at (a) wider-aperture lenses, or (b) VR support, or (c) IBIS support.


Now I got confused. Isn't a faster camera (higher ISO) would yield less noise. For instance for normal exposure, at ISO 1000 for my D610 would yield the same amount of noise at higher ISO for D780?
Isn't that an advantage for buying latest camera with higher allowable ISO?
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Mar 22, 2023 17:25:00   #
I had only a faster prime 50mm lens(1.4) and a 24mm(2.8), all others are 4.5 and above. How do you justify buying fasters lenses or a faster camera(higher ISO)
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Mar 22, 2023 17:23:35   #
JD750 wrote:
Faster lenses can help with that.

I had only a faster prime 50mm lens(1.4) and a 24mm(2.8), all others are 4.5 and above. How do you justify buying fasters lenses or a faster camera(higher ISO)
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Mar 22, 2023 17:19:07   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
I don't understand your clarification. The D610 shoots to 1/4000 sec. That is shutter speed, just like 1/160 sec is shutter speed. Do you mean "shutter speed" or something else when saying "faster speed". If you mean something else, what specifically are you referencing by faster speed?

You can probably save the 1000 words of explanation and the back n forth Q&A by instead presenting an example image of the problem you're looking to solve.

Sorry for my statements were not clear enough. I meant if I shoot photo with my D610 at f2.8, s1/80, ISO 1000, then with a D780 I can do f3.5, s1/160, ISO3200 in order to yield about the same quality and noise. That's what I meant D780 would allow me to shoot at a faster speed, wouldn't it?
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Mar 22, 2023 17:01:21   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Instant focus? Probably not. The AF system is likely to be limited by (a) the focus motor of the lens and (b) the power supply of the camera. Typically, a battery pack makes a different to the highest end cameras in giving 'more power' to the camera. Changing the lens changes the lens focus motor. Battery packs cost another $100 to $300, based on the brand / model involved.

Faster speed? The reference to frames per second (fps) seems to be different than your usage of 'faster speed'. The D610 has a shutter speed limit of 1/4000 sec. The D780 provides 1/8000 sec max speed. Is shutter speed your meaning of faster speed, and is faster than 1/4000 sec relevant to your needs?

FPS? You have to be shooting still photos in Live View to achieve 12 fps for the D780, including a number of caveats on the file type and card type / model. Is LiveView even practical for sports, wildlife, etc? Otherwise, you're at 7 fps that doesn't seem like much for $1300 for just another 24MP Nikon full-frame DSLR.

reliable faster AF? Have you presented examples images and asked for help, aka free help? We can probably save you $1300 by just discussing your current D610 results. Maybe there is a need for another camera for your needs, where a D780 isn't the solution. But, we don't yet know the problem.
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Did you mean no difference, you meant at regular bright light when you can shoot around f4.5, at 1/160 & 100-250 ISO. and the speed of the focus also depends on the battery power?
When I meant speed, it is about shooting photos at faster speed on low light on auto ISO.
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Mar 22, 2023 16:27:32   #
therwol wrote:
12 frames per second versus 6. Uncropped 4K video at 30 fps. Phase detect autofocus in the Live View mode, which means no hunting to lock onto a subject and much better video when using autofocus. Better low light performance. Also faster and more reliable autofocus.


that's what I want, shoot at faster speed and more reliable faster AF
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