By the way, are you even aware that the Palestinians were allies of N**i Germany and up until Yasser Arafat died they were still being led by N**i trained individuals? Here is something that everyone should know about the Palestinians, but for wh**ever reason it is not commonly taught.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/%E2%80%8Bthe-n**i-roots-of-palestinian-nationalism/

I don' t know the answer to that for sure. Probably not, but as kong as the terrorists still have hostages you can't just stop and let them get away with it. It would only encourage them to continue the attacks necause they would know tjey could get away with it.

Who exactly has dispossessed the Palestinians. Prior to Israel they did not belong to any country either and when Israel was formed they were offered a place in Jordan and they turned it down. You are looking at revisionist history, but even if you really want to believe that is the t***h it still won't get the Israeli hostages back or stop Hamas by appeasing them by withdrawing from the West Bank. Perhaps you need to look at a map. Hamas is not in the West Bank. The fact is that Hamas is terrorists and in order to have a secure nation Israel must get rid of terrorists. Why do you choose to ignore those facts?

I did not say that you supported the attack by Hamas. I asked what Israel should do. Your response is absolutely ludicrous.

How would surrendering the West Bank get the hostages back from Hamas, they aren't in the West Bank. You are seriously nuts. The only reason any women and children are dying is because of the actions their government took and the fact that Hamas hides in the middle of women and children so the only way to get to them is to have some civilian casualties.

Since when does giving something away stop terrorists. All they understand is force. That's like telling a thief that since they stole your microwave you are going to give them your range and stove too so that they will give you the microwave back. Besides, the only reason there are any Israeli settlements in the West Bank is because they attacked Israel in the past.

You will notice that even though the hostages were initially being held in the north they are no longer there. Hamas moved them along with the civilians. The blame for all of this falls on Hamas. But, the biggest thing that you don't seem to recognize is that more than 70 percent of the Palestinians v**ed for Hamas, and according to poles from inside Palestine more than 75 percent say that they still support Hamas and that they will not condemn the Hamas attack on Israel. That makes the "civilians" part of the problem. If they don't want to risk dying then they should quit supporting Hamas and tell Israel where the hostages are being held and the war would quickly end.

Also, why would you believe anything that the Palestinians are telling you about the number of deaths. They have already been proven to be liars when they claimed that Israel bombed the hospital that they hit with their own rocket. Appeasing terrorists has never worked, so if that's your plan Israel might as well cease to exist as a nation, because they can not survive if they make that kind of decision.

I didnt need your editorializing about Bush. I was askong what yoi think Israel should have done? You acknowledge tjat tje attack by Hamas was barbaric. If you were in charge would you allow a terrorist organization to continue to exist next door to you?

I know exactly where Wilsonville is. Used to regularly go to Fry's Electronics before the store closed. We live in Central Oregon. Which part of the Oregon Coast were you on?

Nice. Do you live in Oregon, and if so where?

I will have to check that out, thanks for letting me know.

Then why do you say Israel has overacted? What should they have done?

Look what we did after 9 11. We shoild be supporting Israels right to defend themselves.

What have any of our allies done for us? Look at the Ukraine conflict for example our allies are not supporting Ukraine to help us. They are supporting Ukraine because it is in their best interest to do so. Allies are allies because they have common enemies and or common goals. Would you rather we ally with Iran where people regularly shout death th the little satan and death to the big satan?

Well you are siding with terrorists over Israel what would a logical person conclude that makes you?

You really dont get it do you. If they allow Palestinians to go back north then Hamas will go back north too.

Until Hamas is totally destroyed they cant let Palestinians go back north.

Ask yourself this one question, if the Palestinian people are not bad but only their leadership tjen why do both Jordan and Egypt reduse to take them?

I repeat more than 70 percent of the Palastinians v**ed for Hamas and they still support them. That and the aboxe question should tell you all yoi need to know.

You seem to forget that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and have taken constant daily rocket attacks for years. Blaming a nation where Germany tried to erradicate the entire race and no one wanted them for fighting for their survival is just plain nuts.

They are an ally. You think Ukraine ia an ally because they are fighting Russia. Well Israel is fighting both Hamas and Iran so that makes them our ally..

I appreciate your oppinion. Historically I would agree with you about stacking tcs but Nikon says that you can sta k the vuilt in tcs on both their 400 and their 600 S lenses.

As to not hand holding thats great. Only thing is a huge number of sports photographers I know hand hold, so its what I'm used to.

You raise some interesting points.

First he didnt get a gun, he got a compound bow. Bow hunting is big here.

Second no one got shot, he missed when he shot at the police when he came out and two officers tackled him.

Third what caused his mental break was he was being evicted from his home even though he was currwnt on his rent.

Fourth it turns out that hos family had come in to try to get the paper to do a story a couple weeks earlier about both his upcoming eviction and his mental illness.

That makes things a little different. My photos are of him drawing and firing the bow as two officers who were on each side of the door tackled him.

Thing is I think they might have made the right choice if it helped even one other family with mental illness.

As to shopping photos around there isnt a very big market around here and no one else even ran the story of the police arresting him.

One of the things I have learned is that photographing crimes and accidents is not always appreciated and it is not always cut and dried what should or should not go in print.