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Jul 5, 2013 12:00:33   #
jeep_daddy wrote:
"Does anyone have any advice for a relative novice as to how different these two are?"

The 600 has longer reach than the 580
The 600 uses radio technology to communicate with slaves of the same model instead of line of sight pre-flash as the 580 to communicate with it's compatible slave modes such as another 580, 430 or 270.
The 600 is compatible with your 60D, but the 60D can not take full advantage of all the 600RT's features via it's LCD menus. Only the new model Canon cameras released sometime in 2012 such as the 5D Mark III and the 1DX have full on screen control of master/slave via the menus. There are other Canon cameras that have this capability but I don't know which ones but I think all the new T4i, 6D, 70D, etc. will have the new menus that are compatible to fully control the RT series of Speedlites.
"Does anyone have any advice for a relative n... (show quote)

I stand corrected on what RT stands for, but that was the simple explanation given to me when I called a camera shop to ask.

Anyway, thank you for the explanation of the differences.

I have today got the 600 EX (which I had called the "regular" model as, until I bought it, I did not know the name of the actual model).

I paid about $640 for it.
Jul 4, 2013 11:44:25   #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
The RT model needs a radio transmitter to work remotely in ttl mode. The receiver is built-in.

It appears, then, that if I do not want to spend some more big bucks for an additional accessory, I should not get the RT model?
Jul 4, 2013 11:42:21   #
Charles Bury wrote:
The 600 is $499 at Amazon today. The 580 is $699. What gives? Is the older one now a collectors' item?

How do they compare, and where does the 430 ($259) fit in?

Quebec, Canada

As far as I know, the 430 is inferior to the 580, but the 600 is superior to the 580. For more technical comparisons, perhaps some more knowledgeable forum members can help.
Jul 4, 2013 03:52:00   #
I am thinking of getting an external flash for my Canon 60D.

There are two options: Canon 580 EX II and Canon 600 EX-RT.

In Malaysia, where I am, I am told that the 580 is no longer in production, but some camera vendors still have one or two in stock.

The replacement for the 580 is supposedly the 600, which apparently comes in two options: one RT=remote, and the other "regular".

Does anyone have any advice for a relative novice as to how different these two are?

As additional information, the 600 "regular" is about $135 more that the 580, and the RT is about $200 more. The 580 is about $520.

Thanks for any advice and/or information.
Apr 12, 2013 05:46:25   #
I used to have a Canon G10, and I have used it in video mode. However, as I recall it, there was a limit to how long you can take videos. I think it was just a certain number of minutes or it might have been a certain size of the file. Regardless of which, it tranlated into only a short video.
Apr 7, 2013 02:54:09   #
lorenww wrote:
I wrote this specifically for you ;)

It's a great way to see what you are about to do.

Fantastic! Not only are you good at explaining, you're prescient. You knew I will drop my old camera in the swimming pool, that I will replace it with a DSLR camera, that I will join UHH, and that I will seek help here.

And you wrote this specifically for me before all these happened!

You're GOOD! :lol:

Seriously, you have recommended a very good website. I think I shall be visiting it often.


By the way, you're in St Petersburg, Florida, right? Not St Petersburg, Russia.
Apr 7, 2013 01:58:25   #
If this site were to need a testimony, I would say it's tops!

Thank you all so much for pointing a novice in the right direction.

I must add that no advice is too advanced for me, even as a beginner. If it is, I will file them mentally for future reference.

So, thanks, lighthouse, for being so kind as not to burden me with knowledge beyond my present ken; but I certainly also appreciate from BigBear from Northern Conneticut [is there a Southern Connecticut? ;-)] his advice, which I shall bear in mind to look out for.

Of course, the advice from everyone here is much appreciated, and as the cliche goes, there are too many to mention by name.

Thanks again, one and all.
Apr 6, 2013 01:46:03   #
Thanks SharpShooter. Yes, it is tough-going reading the thick manual, but I guess I will have to persevere if I want to be as sharp a shooter as you ;-).
Apr 6, 2013 01:42:28   #
Thanks raysass. I am reading the manual (page by page in sequence) that came with the camera, but I will now jump to those topics you have kindly suggested.
Apr 6, 2013 01:19:21   #

I used to be a point and shoot "photographer", having used a Canon Powershot G4 for several years and then a Canon Powershot G10, again for several years.

Because I dropped the G10 into a swimming pool when I was on holiday (vacation) as unbeknown to me, the screws holding the anchor for the strap somehow got loose and fell out (at the wrong time), causing the camera strap to slip through my hand into the water, I had no choice but to buy a new camera.

I threw caution to the winds, as I am not really a "photographer", and bought a Canon EOS 60D with a Canon 18-200mm lens kit.

Since it will be a big waste to use this camera on auto mode to point and shoot, I am hoping to learn how to use it to maximum benefit.

One way of doing it to read and sift through all past Ugly Hedgehog [are there handsome/beautiful hedgehogs? ;-)] postings to find what I can learn from them. However, this may take a long time before I can really learn about how to use the camera.

So, does anyone know of any website in which not only camera nomenclature is explained but also the effect of using the various ways/modes of taking a picture manually - so that I can become a "real" photographer?

Thanks for any advice. - Forum
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