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Apr 18, 2024 11:58:18   #
Optical filters remove things. The sliders in your editor allow you to manipulate the process of converting to B&W without removing anything (unless you want them to). Removing things just limits your options. Better to stay with the full palette.

The colour sliders seldom have a major effect. Most of the time they're for tweaking things like foliage, although they can have a significant effect on the sky and other large areas that consist mostly of one colour. The heavy guns in B&W conversion are the contrast slider and the Whites, Highlights, Shadows, Blacks and Brightness sliders. Texture modifiers can also be significant depending on the content.
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Apr 18, 2024 01:36:48   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
... even if you could put them on UHH, they aren't viewable. They'd have to be downloaded to a person's computer and that person would need software to open ...


Another alternative is for the OP to import them into an editor that can convert the raw files and then export them as tiffs or DNGs but downsizing them to 2300 pixels on the longest edge. The resolution won't be the same as the raw file but everything else will be preserved, such as colour depth and bit depth. Editing the exported tiff or DNG files will be the same as editing the raw files except for the difference in resolution.
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Apr 17, 2024 13:14:08   #
Rongnongno wrote:
There was a thread about creating noise that did not look like 'digital noise'....


My guess is that the problem with digital noise is its smallness and also its contrasty nature. Grain can be larger and greyer.
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Apr 17, 2024 13:10:01   #
Rongnongno wrote:
... The question is how to apply it...


The Grain tool in the Effects section in Lightroom gives a fair bit of control over the applied grain. It possibly doesn't need anything more complicated than that.
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Apr 17, 2024 13:02:52   #
Rongnongno wrote:
Sample of grain used...

When printed size, without adjustment.


Again I don't know exactly what look you're going for but I'd say that grain will give you a better starting point and possibly more options for controlling its appearance.
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Apr 17, 2024 12:45:18   #
In the Effects section in Lightroom you can control the amount, size and roughness of the grain. I don't know exactly what look you're going for but those three adjustments should be able to give you what you want. Sharpening, denoise and contrast/clarity would also be an option.
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Too extreme? Doesn't have to be.

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Apr 17, 2024 12:29:14   #
Rongnongno wrote:
What do you mean by 'soft grain'?

Film grain depended on the emulsion speed, the fastest the films the more grain (as larger clump of silver). When in the lab, the grain became larger depending on the enlargement size. It was also as sharp as the projected image.


Noise is pixel-sized but grain can be larger. I also suspect that noise has to be fairly high contrast before it becomes noticeable but grain could be more moderate contrast-wise.
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Apr 17, 2024 12:14:36   #
The main difference between low res and high res is the smallness of the detail that can be captured. If you upsize a low res image the edges will be made smoother but the upsizer can't replace microdetail that was never captured in the first place.

However, you need to ask "When is that important?". The answer is that most of the time it won't be important. Making larger prints is one of the times when it will be important. Doing a lot of cropping is another such time. But in just about any other situation, 20MP is more than enough and upsizing will be a waste of time. For example, viewing on a 4K screen, 8.3 MP is all that you need so 20MP is more than adequate.

If you're printing large enough for the microdetail to be significant, an upsized image won't have the same level of microdetail that a high res image has, but unless you're comparing the two side by side you won't miss microdetail that you don't know is missing. The important thing to avoid with upsizing is jaggedy edges and that's exactly what upsizers are designed to avoid.
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Apr 17, 2024 11:55:18   #
I can't tell what you've done but I suspect that soft grain might be more pleasing to the eye than anything that is described as "noise". It would also keep the nostalgic film lovers happy.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:59:35   #
All done without the use of a safety-net (i.e. Dehaze).
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Apr 15, 2024 14:53:26   #
User ID wrote:
Maybe ... but only if that little casual camera has 300 horsepower. An error like that needs 50 to 100 fps. I wonder if a closer inspection shows 100% identical framing, which is near impossible from a handheld burst. Perfectly identical framing would mean the camera is duplicating recorded images by about 100X. OTOH, if following your lead, maybe its in a video mode at 60fps ? Anywho it seems too weird. Often enuf a bit more info dispels the weirdness ... if the OP offers any more info.


I thought about the video possibility but wouldn't that be recorded as a video file and not individual frames?
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Apr 15, 2024 13:58:33   #
Sounds like you're on continuous shutter release (the high speed option H).
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Apr 15, 2024 01:33:36   #
whatdat wrote:
May be a little confusing to the OP? NX Studio will allow you to make some adjustments to JPGs (contrast, brightness, etc.), but raw will give you the ability to adjust considerably more.


After I posted I realised the possible ambiguity so I posted THIS to clarify. It makes it clearer that if you import the raw file into NX Studio it will apply the Picture Control adjustments by default unless you cancel them. It's also possible to see the exact adjustments used and to readjust if wanted. That stands in contrast to the jpeg file which has the Picture Control adjustments baked in and it is then compressed so it's not possible to return to the raw file from the jpeg.
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Apr 14, 2024 14:51:09   #
Use Quote Reply ↓ under the post that you want to reply to. That way we'll know who you're responding to.
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Apr 14, 2024 12:41:01   #
R.G. wrote:
NX Studio will show the adjustments that the jpeg got in camera - which will depend on the Picture Control settings in the camera. NX Studio gives the option of applying the exact same adjustments to the raw files, or if you want you can choose another Picture Control profile to apply. It's worth having a look at the adjustments that the jpeg files get. There's nothing magical about them. They're fairly basic. And the same adjustments are applied to all jpegs, but if you edit the raw file you can give each image tailor-made adjustments.
NX Studio will show the adjustments that the jpeg ... (show quote)


The above applies if you import the raw files into NX Studio. If you go with the Picture Control profile that will be applied by default, the sharpening will be very basic and not as good as the sharpening that even a basic photo editor is capable of applying. The more advanced editors will do a much better job.

The SOOC jpegs have the Picture Control adjustments baked in to them and it will be impossible to do a perfect job of reversing them. The same applies to any WB adjustments that were applied in-camera. If you're anticipating any major WB adjustments (due to funny or mixed lighting), raw is a must.
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