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May 11, 2017 10:41:28   #
This was the first time in my life that I have ever seen this bird. This is also the only shot I was able to get off before it flew away.


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May 8, 2017 22:42:44   #
Some people take things the wrong way. I really meant "duck". But your version was better.
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May 8, 2017 19:55:36   #
Oknoder wrote:
You are coming off as very condescending, while some may have been rude as to your beliefs, it comes off as petty to try to belittle your opponents.

As for your posted image, who knows, could it be a secret moon base? It is possible, just not very probable. Unless you're implying aliens, and I would prefer to not go down that rabbit hole. I don't follow the rocket launches like I used to when I lived in FL, but I have not seen or heard of any US launches that have the size needed to put any sizable payload into a lunar orbit. So if you are claiming this is a super secret US base, logic would state that it has to be vastly under supplied. Honestly the image could be a crater in a larger crater. Since the image is buried in shadow it is only a guess, but what would the government benefit from by hiding such a great accomplishment. Hell they can't even keep their emails secret, to believe they have the power or strength needed to keep an operation of this magnitude under wraps is disingenuous to say the least.

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Sonny is a d__k. What I saw in that crater could have been there a year or a million years. Wait until the Mars threads start showing up. The real fun will begin when that heats up. It is not wise to come to the aid of someone who I consider is not worth defending. One more thing: You should point out the thread where I mentioned "secret base". Not doing so will identify you as a d__k.
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May 7, 2017 18:26:39   #
I'm going broke buying suet cakes.


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May 6, 2017 14:46:29   #
JoAnneK01 wrote:
Think I'll just keep my S&W 38 Chief's special. Fits in my purse, easy to carry and offers better accuracy. Been using it for over 40 years. I do like the photo. Would be a great advertisement -- with a brand added. Mahalo for sharing the photo and bringing up an interesting subject.


USING IT? FOR 40 YEARS? Must be keeping the Maui population under control all by yo self. God bless you.
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May 6, 2017 09:41:43   #
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
ok. When meteors hit, they kick up large and small rocks. I don't think that point needs to be defended. We see lots of craters with rays of debris strewn out from them. Some of these are very extensive, and can be clearly seen with a small telescope. Anyway, there are so many craters on the moon that any crater is pretty close to several other craters, as is clearly seen in this picture. It stands to reason that sometimes rocks that are kicked up by an impact will land in the bottom of another crater. Sometimes these events will result in large rocks that plow into the walls of a crater a bit.
Does all this not seem pretty normal? It would be weird if it did not happen. And what would that look like?
The alternative is what? You wondered earlier about possible secret installations on the moon. So that would take a very large budget and lots of people. Consider the latter point for a moment: lots of people on earth (and on the moon?) involved in a prolonged and secret operation on the moon. What would be the point? And no one talks? Ever?
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Mark, if you are directing your reply to me, the O.P. of this thread, you are totally wrong when you said that I mentioned secret bases. I simply presented what I found to be puzzling. Most of the replies to this thread have been swathed in ridicule. I do not know what the anomalies on the Moon are; period. I am of the opinion that our current civilization is the last of the many that have risen and disappeared in the past. There are enough puzzles on Earth to keep the curious busy for a lifetime. Google the images of Sacsaywaman, and tell me whether it is a puzzle that will ever be solved. The Osirion in Egypt is another one that will challenge a solution. You also wasted your time in explaining your version of Lunar geology to me. I spent two years working along side of JPL on the Surveyor Moon Lander program and another two years on the Apollo program at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston(actually Clearlake TX.). Do not fail to visit this excellent web site: target.lroc.asu.edu/q3/
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May 4, 2017 09:49:46   #
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
That last one is pretty decipherable. It is clear that there are craters in craters in that one.
As for the first one, it is most likely to be merely a couple boulders that got stuck in a crater, possibly having dropped in after a meteor impact. It is weird, but not that weird, and that sort of thing should happen on occasion, given the number of impacts recorded on the moon and the clear dispersal of boulders and rocks ejected from those impacts. Just ask yourself: What would a few boulders in a crater look like? What would it look like in a slightly blurry, high contrast picture? I hope you can agree it would look like that first picture.

There is a famous moon picture from many decades ago of a house-sized boulder that had rolled down a slope, leaving spaced tracks as it went wobbling down the hill. That is still getting UFO enthusiasts all abuzz, because they see this surprising pattern and jump to conclusions. But 'ya know, although it is kind of cool it looks exactly like what a boulder down a hill would look like. I am sure you can find it and other examples like it with a quick search online.
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This is the crater that is at the lat/longs that are given. It is a tedious effort to get to the the exact spot on the LROS site but this is the picture that you will get. Notice the disturbance in the crater wall from 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock.


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May 4, 2017 08:22:19   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Amazing detail, but where is the spot in question?


I did not get the lat/longs for the shot on this thread but here are the lat/longs for another similar sized crater with something strange in it.


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May 4, 2017 08:03:41   #
For anyone who might care: target.lroc.asu.edu/q3/is back in operation. 2 meters/pixel resolution still looks good.
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May 3, 2017 18:04:04   #
SonnyE wrote:
I find you to be an alarmist idiot.
3 times the same tired crap.
Get the F over yourself.

Oh and glad you decided to ignore me.
That is as useless as your post.


Sonny(good name for a child), I saw your list of Astro equipment. Look out Hubble, there's a new sheriff in town. I'll bet you get tumescent just looking at that 80mm objective.
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May 3, 2017 17:10:19   #
SonnyE wrote:
Which definition would you like?

Cons piracy?
Conspiracy?
Cover up the Super Secret Moon compound?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy

So maybe they should take you up for a tour?
You know, so you could see for yourself.

But then, you'd have to be killed. Can't have you blabbing all over the Internet.
They'd probably have to shoot you into the Sun.
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My God, do you realize how immature you sound? I have a ten year old grandson who would find you childish.
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May 3, 2017 11:26:55   #
Albuqshutterbug wrote:
And here is the link to the last go around.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-430062-1.html
Still the same shot and still trying to infer a conspiracy. Give it a rest.


Yes, I did post on the same subject before. The reason I reposted was an attempt to reach a more open minded audience. For the most part, I failed again.

Before you use such a big word as "conspiracy" you might try to find out what the definition is.
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May 1, 2017 16:06:09   #
Wenonah wrote:
After reading the entire thread I think you owe someone an apology.


Nope, the guy obviously made a typo error and someone jumped on it needlessly. If people want to correct English errors they should get a job at a school.
I remember going by Winona on the Burlington Zephyr right after WWII. Pretty town. Sempre Fi my brother.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:03:28   #
cameranut wrote:
No one has mentioned the fact that there is no oxygen on the moon. How are intelligent beings (or unintelligent ones) supposed to breath?


Dunno: Ask an Apollo astronaut.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:48:14   #
James Slick wrote:
I'm amending my own comment to ad this, I think the OP is trolling everyone.

He has stated:

"Digital photography made a giant leap in 1964 with the development of the Spacecraft Television Ground Data Handling System. It also was a groundbreaker in the use of bar code. "

And;

" I was part of the development team. I hope that you can understand what I have just provided you better than the image that you continue to ridicule. You can thank people like me for not having to buy film for your Instamatic."

First we have:

Early history of the Digital camera:


The history of the digital camera began with Eugene F. Lally of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who was thinking about how to use a mosaic photosensor to capture digital images. His 1961 idea was to take pictures of the planets and stars while travelling through space to give information about the astronauts' position. Unfortunately, as with Texas Instruments employee Willis Adcock's filmless camera (US patent 4,057,830) in 1972, the technology had yet to catch up with the concept.

Steven Sasson as an engineer at Eastman Kodak invented and built the first electronic camera using a charge-coupled device image sensor in 1975.


Early history of the barcode:

On 20 October 1949 Woodland and Silver filed a patent application for "Classifying Apparatus and Method", in which they described both the linear and bullseye printing patterns, as well as the mechanical and electronic systems needed to read the code. The patent was issued on 7 October 1952 as US Patent 2,612,994. In 1951, Woodland moved to IBM and continually tried to interest IBM in developing the system. The company eventually commissioned a report on the idea, which concluded that it was both feasible and interesting, but that processing the resulting information would require equipment that was some time off in the future.
system
IBM offered to buy the patent, but its offer was not high enough. Philco purchased their patent in 1962 and then sold it to RCA sometime later.



And if the OP was involved with all of that advanced thinking and technology from 1949 to 1975, Why does he need to photograph is monitor? Hell my phone is capable of saving screenshots.


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Nice of you to mention Gene Lally and JPL. We, at the Western Development Lab of Link-General Precision, designed and built the Spacecraft Television Ground Data Handling System for them. As to why I photographed the screen: I normally save screen images by right clicking and selecting "save image". This did not work for the LROC website.
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