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Apr 12, 2017 06:02:56   #
tomc601 wrote:
If the flashes go into Standby mode they usually will require a second command from the camera. That's why it's sporadic.


What do you mean by a second command? I actually don't think they are in stand by mode that long. Thanks
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Apr 11, 2017 09:24:35   #
dcampbell52 wrote:
verify that the IR sensors (a little red circle on the flash body often on the battery side of the flash) is always pointing at the flash on the camera. Also make sure that the camera's built-in flash is UP (if you are using it instead of one of the others as your "Commander". This is the reason that the Nikon flashes rotate on the body (so that the sensor can be pointed at the camera and the flash pointed at the target. NOTE: if you are using one of the other flashes as your control, MAKE SURE that it is on the hot shoe of the camera (or connected to the hot shoe with the appropriate hotshoe to strobe cable (available at Nikon or Nikon supplier for a fee)). Also, if one of the external strobes is being used as commander, make sure it is set to commander on the controls on the back of the strobe.
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The sensors are in alignment with the camera. I have the Nikon Flash on channel 1 and Group A and the Yongnuo Flash on channel 1 and Group B. (had Yongnuo on Group A previously)

I will have to play around more to see what happens. Thanks for your assistance
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Apr 11, 2017 08:23:02   #
dcampbell52 wrote:
If you can put one in A and one in B... (and use the on camera flash as either control only or participating in the flash, it will give you greater control over each flash. Remember that the on camera flash will ALWAYS fire even if it is just being used as a trigger. The onboard flash OR the flash in the Hot Shoe, will always flash during the shoot but if it is set as control only, then it is just sending instructions to the off board flashes and not participating in the exposure. This is a common panic for people just getting started in Commander Mode.
If you can put one in A and one in B... (and use t... (show quote)


For some reason either one or sometimes both flashes are going off. It seems most of the time neither one is going off. Both flashes are in sight line of the camera. On both flashes they are blinking red, I am assuming they are ready to fire. Something must be wrong.
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Apr 11, 2017 06:27:05   #
Rick36203 wrote:
One more thing to remember with the D610 and optical flash control. When using the pop-up as a CLS "Commander", any setting other than "--" for the pop-up flash output will almost certainly result in your shutter speed not being permitted to exceed the "Auto FP" sync setting, normally 1/200sec. (At least that's the way my D750 works).

As long as the pop-up is set at "--", the camera will permit any shutter speed up to 1/4000. Your off-camera sb910 and yn-568ex will then be able to use their HSS /Auto FP sync capabilities to light the scene, or add fill as needed...as long as they can see the Commander... and their available power permits it.
One more thing to remember with the D610 and optic... (show quote)


I do have the pop up flash set to"_ _" in Commander. Thanks again
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Apr 10, 2017 21:55:43   #
Bill_de wrote:
Are you giving them enough time to recharge between shots?

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I am sure I am. I will be checking all of this tomorrow again.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:24:38   #
Actually at times neither one is going off. Having a hard time figuring that out. It is sparatic.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:17:54   #
Rick36203 wrote:
You did not say which flash is not firing as a optical remote. The optical sensor for the Yongnuo is on the front of the unit under the red cover. The sensor for the SB-910 is on the battery side of the flash. The flashes can be controlled separately by placing them in different groups. Be sure the sensors see the "Command" flash.

If you buy the Yongnuo 622 series system, you will need two yn-622n transceivers (one for every off-camera flash), and one yn-622n-tx controller for the camera's hot shoe. Using this radio system you set all flash units to regular i-TTL (just as if they were to be used on-camera), and then you set the channel and group on each yn-622n. This system does not need line of sight. Use normal i-TTL with the 622s even if you want to make remote "manual" adjustments.

Since you've had your Nikon flash awhile, I'm sure you are familiar with the settings. The following shows the correct display for using the yn-568ex as a radio remote and as a optical remote.
You did not say which flash is not firing as a opt... (show quote)


Thanks so much for your help, I appreciate it.
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Apr 10, 2017 18:59:08   #
Shellback wrote:
This will help you with groups - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJTZG5yfAh4

With the 568 - you can have multiple units in the same group and they will all fire to the command set in the camera for that group (camera set group A at full power - all flash slave units in group A will fire full power). Other groups can be set to other power (camera set group B at 1/2 power - all flash slave units in group B will fire 1/2 power) - or all groups can be set to TTL and you adjust the exposure comp different for each group - depends on what you want.
This will help you with groups - https://www.youtu... (show quote)


Great. That is very helpful.
While I am at it will this work with my setup YONGNUO YN622N-KIT Wireless i-TTL Flash Trigger Kit with LED Screen for Nikon including 1X YN622N-TX Controller and 1X YN622 N Transceiver

I am having isues with the flashes going off even though the flashes can see the signal.
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Apr 10, 2017 18:03:56   #
speters wrote:
One should be group A and the other group B


OK I am just getting started with this. So why is one group A and the other group B

I appreciate the help
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Apr 10, 2017 17:25:51   #
Shellback wrote:
Make sure the infrared receiver screen on the flashes are facing the camera flash - the heads will rotate so you can keep the flash pointing where you need it...


Ok Thanks for the info. Maybe that was my issue.
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Apr 10, 2017 16:53:53   #
PaulR01 wrote:
Sounds like they are firing optically. I didn't see you mention a trigger in your first post. I doubt the body will communicate with the flashes wirelessly.


I am not using a trigger. The Commander mode in camera controls both flashes. I have to have the built in camera flash up in order for the speed lights to go off. I am assuming both speed lights can be in group A My issue is why they are not always working.
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Apr 10, 2017 16:50:41   #
rwilson1942 wrote:
I don't know about the not flashing but you would only use two different channels if you want to independently control each flash.


I am only using channel 1 so that is not an issue.
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Apr 10, 2017 15:17:36   #
Thanks to a previous topic which I was able to get help I am in need again

I have a Nikon D610 with a Nikon Flash SB-910 and also a Yungnuo YN-568EX (just received the Yongnuo today) On my d610 I have Commander Mode on. Nikon Flash Channel 1 Group A TTL For the Yongnuo I also have Group A Channel 1 TTL
First off should they both be on Group A or should one be group B

I had them both on Group A and it worked a couple of times. Although both are not always flashing. So what am I doing wrong? I appreciate all the help I can get.
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Apr 2, 2017 07:37:22   #
dcampbell52 wrote:
I use my SB-910 and my SB-800 on light stands using commander all of the time. Commander allows you to set the light output of each of 4 channels. Each channel can have an unlimited number of strobes as long as all are compatible with Nikon's Commander mode. I have my SB-910 using flash A and the SB-800 using B. The built-in flash controls both. I can set the ev on any if the groups from -3.0 to +3.0 to control the amount of light from each strobe. You will see that you also have multiple channels to keep your strobes and camera from triggering everyone else's at an event. (We had an off camera flash class in the local camera club that became a fiasco because the "instructor" and many of the students didn't know to use separate channels. In addition, some were using pocket wizards and were all on the same channel so they were constantly triggering each other's flashes. 3 of us were using Nikon's commander mode and we were each on separate channels so we didn't affect anyone.) The point is that you already have all of the flash control hardware you need. Pocket Wizards are nice if you camera and flash don't already have a solution that you've already paid for.
Here is a link to an article that includes Nikon and other brands.
https://www.borrowlenses.com/blog/multiple-flash-firing-with-nikons-advanced-wireless-lighting-system-using-pop-up-flash/
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I will check this out. Thanks
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Apr 1, 2017 07:40:51   #
dcampbell52 wrote:
I use my SB-910 and my SB-800 on light stands using commander all of the time. Commander allows you to set the light output of each of 4 channels. Each channel can have an unlimited number of strobes as long as all are compatible with Nikon's Commander mode. I have my SB-910 using flash A and the SB-800 using B. The built-in flash controls both. I can set the ev on any if the groups from -3.0 to +3.0 to control the amount of light from each strobe. You will see that you also have multiple channels to keep your strobes and camera from triggering everyone else's at an event. (We had an off camera flash class in the local camera club that became a fiasco because the "instructor" and many of the students didn't know to use separate channels. In addition, some were using pocket wizards and were all on the same channel so they were constantly triggering each other's flashes. 3 of us were using Nikon's commander mode and we were each on separate channels so we didn't affect anyone.) The point is that you already have all of the flash control hardware you need. Pocket Wizards are nice if you camera and flash don't already have a solution that you've already paid for.
Here is a link to an article that includes Nikon and other brands.
https://www.borrowlenses.com/blog/multiple-flash-firing-with-nikons-advanced-wireless-lighting-system-using-pop-up-flash/
I use my SB-910 and my SB-800 on light stands usin... (show quote)


Thanks so much for the reply. I now have a few options to work with
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